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  • MorsRattus
    replied to Scion x WtA: Totem Spirit Pantheon
    Interpretation matters. Christianity takes many Jewish stories and vastly reinterprets them in ways that do not resemble anything Jewish. The Old Testament is not the Tanakh. Vampire's interpretation of Caine is exceptionally Christian, and is based heavily in Christian interpretations. It bears exactly zero resemblance to any Jewish interpretation of the Cain and Abel story.
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  • MorsRattus
    replied to Scion x WtA: Totem Spirit Pantheon
    A Haredi source. Haredi or Ultraorthodox Judaism is, a, not the majority view of Judaism, and b, not something that the writers of Vampire would even be considering, even before we get into your fundamental misinterpretation of "faith" in Jewish terms or the degree to which this is presented a very biased viewpoint pushing a specific Haredi interpretation. People approach Vampire from a Christian lens because it is written with one. It is not written with a Jewish lens even slightly.
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  • MorsRattus
    replied to Scion x WtA: Totem Spirit Pantheon
    Faith is being used in multiple senses here. I am talking about belief as opposed to practice - and belief over practice is a Christian thing. The keeping of faith in the terms you’re discussing is about deeds and actions, not belief. The Messianic bodily resurrection is not at all like a Christian afterlife, and concepts of salvation or damnation are again not part of it in the way they are for Christianity. Vampire fundamentally is about the idea of the damned trying to escape their state, replacing Hell with vampiric existence in a very direct way.

    But please, do try to explain...
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  • MorsRattus
    replied to Scion x WtA: Totem Spirit Pantheon
    Judeo-Christian is not a thing. The theology of oWoD in general,present a very Christian view - a maltheist one, but one which is fundamentally concerned with salvation and damnation, concepts which just are not Jewish in any sense. It presents a world of a distant God who cares about faith above all, such that it is, in fact, True Faith which repels vampires. It relies heavily on a fundamentally Christian reading of Biblical stories as it’s foundation for Caine and his backstory, even as it tries to incorporate apocrypha like Enoch. It is comprehensible only through a Christian perspective....
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  • MorsRattus
    replied to Scion x WtA: Totem Spirit Pantheon
    I am just going to note: there is literally nothing Jewish about the depiction of God in Vampire and oWoD. It is all intensely Christian culturally.
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