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  • I'd like more on the Loyalists, AKD, MM and TF:V; specifically how they actually work internally. The stuff we have seems very vague.
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  • I don't really see what this adds that isn't already present. I feel like it just dials the subtly back.
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  • Yes to which?...
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  • Michael
    replied to Product Request
    No I wouldn't. The GMC update was useful because it updated a lot of core rules, therefore having a separate section made a lot of sense. The stuff in non-core books isn't generally that useful in actual play where I need a quick reference.

    Also, the mechanics are created in conjunction with the setting. A purely mechanical appendix is therefore subsidised off the people who paid for the whole thing; it wouldn't exist if the setting didn't. I'm not all that keen to see person with the pure mechanics supplement still benefit from a setting they didn't pay for. That would though depend...
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  • Michael
    replied to How do Caucuses Work?
    Could do a mix actually. I mean, it sets up a situation where there's a formal system, but an incentive to cheat.



    I was just meaning the progression through the Mystery. The Mysterium book mentions that the Order varies the difficulty of the task you need to accomplish to advance. So, you can be fast-tracked to Hierophant status or left as a neokoros.



    Sorry, I meant the other way around. In 1e, where caucuses were confined to consilia, there was little room for overlap of authority between different magisters. The Nemean was the Deacon of Boston,...
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  • Michael
    replied to How do Caucuses Work?
    That seems to be implied, though it leaves overlap. Also, perhaps more importantly, who defines the territory? There's a radical difference between a council of magisters arbitrating a division of territory and leaving it up to individuals to simply set up their caucus as they see fit. Though, even the first case would still leave a very contentious situation.



    I think that only applies in fairly small organisations with little power. Offices aren't just work, they also provide influence and power too. Your Hierophant for example, has de facto control over promotion in...
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  • Michael
    replied to How do Caucuses Work?
    Not really. It's more that the Order Status merit mentions it.



    Yeah, that's the question more or less. 1e limited the number of caucuses in a way 2e doesn't. So if you don't like the way the Deacon runs things, then it's not obvious what stops you from starting your own caucus (assuming you're powerful enough)? Further, by allowing overlap of caucuses it implies the potential for a level of competition between them that wasn't previously there.

    Basically, how do the Orders counteract the tendency of groups to splinter? If indeed they do?

    As...
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  • Michael
    started a topic How do Caucuses Work?

    How do Caucuses Work?

    I'm looking for some advice on what's a good way to implement caucuses.

    I understand that the rough idea is that they've been decoupled from consilia and scaled up a bit, but I'm finding that really difficult to work with.

    It works pretty well with the Mysterium and Free Council, but the other three seem heavily predicated on the consilium for defining their limits. Like, the SL book stated that there's a fairly hard limit of one deacon per consilium. There were ways to get more, but essentially the number of offices was tied to the number of consilia.

    However,...
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  • Michael
    replied to Crossover questions
    Now I think about it, Mage 1e had a very definite morality system. 1e Wisdom has none of the flexibility of 2e; a Mage by virtue of their spiritual state knows what's right and wrong. If I remember right, it's even suggested that they gain no bonus dice for mitigating circumstances.
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  • Michael
    replied to Crossover questions
    Some variant of Soul Marks from the Death Arcana could work.

    Depends what effect these fundamental forces have on the individual.
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  • Michael
    replied to Multi covenant membership?
    Secrets of the Covenants has a little more on this. There are merits for the Sanctum and Circle which allow for non-covenant members to participate in them.
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  • You should really just talk to your players before it gets to that point....
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