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[Michael]

Okay, then I won't read the post then if you're not feeling right....

[Michael]

You need to be specific about which version you mean. Like, V5 doesn't have paths, V20 Dark Ages didn't include countermagic, and V20 countermagic doesn't work on mages.

Also, you've implied that your mages have arete and suffer paradox which isn't right, if it's in the Dark Ages.

[Michael]

It depends how much fighting you want. Like, I think you've massively overemphasised the violence of the era, but if that's the kind of game you want, that's not really a problem. So bear in that in mind for the next bit:



I'd keep in mind that they are stories. You write stories about interesting things. No one wants to hear about how some guy didn't do very much. I mean, you could say the same about modern fiction (quite a bit of non-fiction too actually).



I doubt that. It is a lot more common in aggregate, but bear in mind that every battle...

[Michael]

I think the underlying issue is the Shadowraith write-up itself. Like, it states that most death spirits 'are content to await the inevitable' but these ones aren't, suggesting that there's something aberrant about their behaviour. However, the behaviour of the Shadowraiths is pretty much exactly what you'd expect a death spirit to do.

[Michael]

Good question. I'm wondering how much of the fan-made stuff was actually made by like one or two people. Like, of the fan-made compacts and conspiracies that I can remember they're pretty much all written/developed by either KingsRaven (who doesn't seem to be around anymore) or LostLight.

[Michael]

Secrets of the Bloodlines suggests that that's exactly what the Seven do; they simply believe that due to their state of Golconda their souls are preserved in some sense....

[Michael]

I can't say that I see much evidence of that. In fact, the opposite seems to be the more common case....

[Michael]

That's quite funny. I only read the final version. I vaguely knew something had been added, but I really wouldn't have guessed at Lessons, they seem pretty integral....

[Michael]

It's self-evidently wrong. I mean, you've read the 1e stuff, the individual Technocrats are not generally presented as two-dimensional people. The stories underlying the original convention books are all about individual members grappling and compromising with their place in the Technocracy, that's obvious material for games....

[Michael]

Not really. You're confusing your preferences for what is actually possible....

[Michael]

Yeah, it does seem like a concept with a bit more potential than it's allowed.

[Michael]

Any idea where?...

[Michael]

That's not that far removed from how the Order of Reason conceptualised their magic.



Is that from the books or is that your idea? If the latter, that's really good....

[Michael]

Disregarding rules somewhat; I'd give the Technos special gear. That way, they do have a special laser gun that'll work for anyone, just they can do more complicated stuff with it.

[Michael]

I don't really see the issue. Like, if it's a mage game who cares? That said, there's potentially not a lot of difference between co-option and legitimately joining or supporting.



If your character is a mage then maybe Mystery Cult Influence.



I think there's enough wiggle room for most combinations. Like it'd depend a lot on how harsh your ST makes the Conspiracies as well as how they organise them. Like, the MM or AKD might be really against working with certain groups but it's not obvious that either can really enforce that (unless your ST...

[Michael]

I feel you're kinda burying the lead there. Joseph was a neo-nazi pseudo-archaeologist. Also, the Hopewell are in the Eastern half of North America....

[Michael]

Just to clarify, I am right in thinking that the spell duration is on the portal, not the transition into Twilight? That seems like a potentially really handy thing.

I guess what I'm wondering is why is the spell written to include a gateway in the first place. Like, Transubstantiation doesn't create a gateway that alters matter, it just alters matter. Is the implication that ghost gates are a phenomena that the spell merely activates?

Looking for comparison, there's Twilit Body for transforming into Spirit Ephemera in Twilight at 4 dots....

[Michael]

Thinking about it, why is a fairly simple weaving spell the +1 reach option on a spell that creates a gateway that does the simple weaving spell?...

[Michael]

You do realise this is a necro'd thread? You're talking to a comment from 3 years ago. There's every chance they've changed their mind on this....

[Michael]

Thanks everyone.



I did wonder if that was the idea....