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  • Michael
    replied to The Anthroplogy of Magic
    I think your analysis risks overlooking the reality of magic in the setting. I mean, the Golden dawn fell apart because ultimately they didn't have any real power. When one of them defected and created their own order, all the leadership could do was write nasty things about them. Further, there was no real benefit to letting someone else be your superior.

    The Awakenend however have very real overt power and real things to offer people in a hierarchical relationship. To understand the continuity of the Orders, I'd look less at the Golden Dawn and more at patrimonial political systems....
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  • Michael
    replied to The Anthroplogy of Magic
    I know this somewhat defeats the purpose of this but do you have any particular reading recommendations?
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  • Michael
    replied to [CofD] DIY Mystery Cults
    That'd be pretty fun to place in the Bristol setting in Forsaken 2e.
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  • My point is that you're asking to be taken seriously, whilst showing fairly massive disrespect for other people's beliefs.

    Also, I'm not a believer in magic, but I have a passing familiarity with real life occultism and the terms you've used sound like nothing I've ever heard of....
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  • You're not really selling that seeing as your references are Star Wars and Spirited Away.



    More seriously, they probably just read a lot. Like, the 1e core has recommendations for non-fiction books on magic, and those things you describe are all aspects of historical occult and religious practices. Awakening is basically lots of real life occultism stitched together into a game.



    Okay, but there are major religions that use the metaphor of awakening when referring to seeing through the illusion on the world....
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  • Michael
    replied to Acanthus and Forces Arcanum
    Also, in Mage, part of the conceit is that popular ideas about Tarot meaning are in fact wrong, or at least heavily distorted.

    Like, there's no fifth suit of mirrors for example.
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  • Michael
    replied to Mythos Based Faction?
    I was thinking more of the paradigm in a broader sense. The basic underlying cosmic horror idea is pretty fundamental to all the Nephandi, summoning tentacle monsters from beyond time and space is more a way of expressing that underlying idea....
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  • Michael
    replied to Mythos Based Faction?
    That's basically the Nephandi.
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  • My point is that soft leverage is exclusively gathra, you don't roll. It implies a level of inflexibility in Spirits, it doesn't matter how great an argument you make, the price is still the same. However, hard leverage introduces the possibility that there is actually a degree of flexibility in what the Spirit requires....
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  • I don't think so. The core says that a few essence points is the minimum gathra without using hard leverage, implying that you can get them lower if you wanted to.

    I'm not terribly keen on it myself. I mean, spirits are so hardwired to this system that you have to use gathra, you can't persaude them to help you... Unless you're threatening them in which case the Spirits suddenly has freewill. That feels like it undermines the weird psychology of spirits a bit.

    I dunno, I can kinda see a justification maybe....
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  • Michael
    replied to R.A.M [New Conspiracy]
    You've done a good job there. The Hunters being folded into the IDF is a great bit of creative history.
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  • Michael
    replied to Crossover Question - High Speech
    I think by default, no. It's not actually a language. It's more like the platonic ideal of a language....
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  • Michael
    replied to Sell me on the orders
    Define cut-throat. I mean, there are real stakes to the politicing in the Pentacle, it just doesn't generally end with one person dead.

    The most common punishment is that a consilium simply publicly declares that you're guilty of something. That alone gets you locked out of a lot of benefits as other Awakened shun you, it's essentially blacklisting you.



    Not really. Think more Cold War. Both sides loath each other, but neither actually wants to fight directly as that's extremely risky....
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  • Michael
    replied to Acanthus and Forces Arcanum
    I think that's the best pithy summary I've heard....
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  • Michael
    replied to The Sundered World
    That's something I've been wondering about. I think the idea is that the title is from our perspective. Like referring to a lost civilisation. It's not lost to the people living in it, it's about our perspective on it. Also, it's 'The Sundered World' which subtly changes the meaning I'd say....
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  • No they're not. They're different. That's the entire point.



    It's confusingly written but they didn't. They destroyed the citadel of Ubar. Plus, Ki-En-Gir isn't fictional, it's Sumer....
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  • They're not that big an influence really. Irem and the Ki-En-Gir go to war, and then make a peace settlement, that's kinda it. They're just two important periods which happen to coincide....
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  • I don't think that's exactly what's being proposed. There's already a degree of crossover. Irem goes to war with an empire in Mesopotamia which reading between the lines you could see corresponding to Kish (or is it Kush?), which is a Scelesti city mentioned in Left-Hand Path. It's a pretty big deal in the history of Awakening's setting....
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  • I don't really agree. The Tamers were organised in a radically different way to the Pentacle. You don't join the Tamers and then choose a legacy. You gain entrance to the Order by joining one of the member legacies.

    'course, that depends how much Dave wants to change them as the Tamers kinda suffer a lot from the rewriting of the setting....
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  • If I remember right, the Guardians of the Veil book basically admitted that. It has a long section on how important Rome was to the Guardians, but then admits that Chinese Guardians tend to think that's rubbish.

    I think the underlying issue might be that to do any kind of history justice you really need more information about what the Orders are like in non-European regions, and history sections rarely have the room for that....
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