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  • And usually because one isn't quite a monster any more. See Enkidu....
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  • Though, actually...

    I think Palace Keepers are a good antagonist; they're humans who have grown so feared and hated by people around them that they've essentially become the local Apex of their Hive. Not the entire Hive, mind, but they exert enough influence to form an echo of themselves in the Dream, and that forms a free-floating Lair whose purpose is to give its unknowing master whatever they want. This manifests in many ways, but one is invariably as a steadfast refusal of the people around them to censure their behavior for whatever reason; because they're key to the group, they're...
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  • First, I'm a guy, but thanks for the gender-neutral things.

    Second, off the top of my head, #Ammit Status is less of increasing initiation and more like a very specialized Fame Merit; it's gained by, when it comes down to it, showing off your Mad Skillz (tm) in a competently spectacular manner. Humiliating and discrediting an Apophite by publishing how he cheated on his wife? Good. Revealing said information via a music video/sex tape replacing the gallery of memories at the wedding anniversary, and the mistress is wearing a costume that blatantly resembles the Apophite's biological...
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  • Actually, the first idea (devour minions to Transform) is better-it fits with his theme of murder-suicide and the fundamental contempt he actually feels towards the people who he makes his crew from.

    It also explains why people haven't noticed he turns into a fish-ship-crab-Cthulhu-thingy; even beyond the loss of ego, he has to start drowning people all over again to recoup his losses....
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  • Though, you know what we need for Philly's own monstrous foes, because the city is a goddamned death trap in the CofD?

    A Hunter Cataphract. With special traits, to show this is something outside the Nobility's expertise.

    Ben Vold, the Delaware Draug

    Quote: You face the rage of the betrayed, little candle. Let my ship through, or be trawled in the dark seas it sails, as your body joins its crew.

    Hunters in Philly's ports, for the past two years, have increasingly three bits of advice for any peer nearby the two rivers-if you happen to be sailing...
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  • That isn't a bad plan-of course, it's mundane social engineering then, but that's the point-with the occasional Open Rite (Mummy term, refers to magic anyone can do like exorcisms)....
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  • Honestly, I agree with you. They're not combat monsters, they're a bunch of researchers with a grudge-and all the fury of the world wide web behind them....
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  • Much better plan. I was trying to figure out how Tempestra's theme of destructive artifice could be translated to a more computer-based form. The original idea was emphasizing the anarchist bit, but manipulating memes? Much better plan.

    New idea: #Ammit's Endowment is based around "reality viruses", infectious memes and the like. The core ability is to plant an idea that something is Wrong and Should Be Opposed and watch it grow, but other power ideas are getting technology itself to turn against the target (it shares in #Ammit's opinion of you), preternatural skill with...
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  • I never said they weren't. They're just self-aware about it-and terrified of becoming a subset of Stormfront, 8chan, and all the other communities founded largely on prejudice, rather than the right things to be angry about. Because racism (and sexism-this is a group that used to work for the Queen of Storms) sucks.

    Also, if they do have an Endowment, I have a suggestion-they remember how Golneau Grafts work, and while they can't use those anymore lest their new arms start shooting everything that moves due to having just given up on the Ban, they did figure out the occult engineering...
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  • Weren't they a Compact, and don't really have an Endowment to start with?

    Nevermind. From my reading, Sworn Invocations are largely mute points without their Bequests, but Invocations have one other trait you missed-they are a potential Willpower source. If your actions during a scene are in line with one of your Invocations, and have not broken the Ban, you can roll your dots-every success is a Willpower point refreshed. Admittedly, Sworn don't have many dots, but it's not completely useless for them.

    Stormwracked get the short end of the stick-because so many of them...
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  • I thought of them as ex-Stormwracked, as part of the reason they aren't a generic Stormite cell is that they did "compromise", in her mind-they stopped finding collateral damage acceptable, and started worrying about the solution being worse than the problem (mostly because they realized they could generate Taint, but that's hardly new for humans to only put the breaks on when they realize they're making more problems for themselves). It's also because, as mentioned, #Ammit is mostly a cabal of hackers, community organizers, and occasionally information brokers if they really need the...
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  • That, and the Queen can channel her powers through Stormwracked occasionally, and they have prophetic dreams of her.

    Maybe Vectors? They are essentially hosts for her power to be transferred out into the world after they were "infected" by her essence....
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  • Actually, I thought of a way to make the Stormite Compact their own thing distinct from normal Stormwracked:

    They're not really radical. Okay, in a sense they are, they want to tear apart every single instance of Taint they can find, and piss on the remnants, but what turned them from a normal group of Queen-touched berserks into a functioning Compact was suddenly realizing how much collateral damage they were inflicting. Perhaps, once, the original members grew so ruthless that Tempestra wasn't enough to sterilize the Nest their own actions were forming, and they had a massive wakeup...
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  • Leliel
    replied to Controlling Paradox (Scelesti)
    I get that too, but that doesn't mean you're not also still inside of one. Your body may be outside, but your mind is in the corrupted Golden Road, and in Mage, being inside of the Astral Plane makes where your body is a bit of a technical issue. And what is definitely inside of them are a whole gaggle of acamoth, as a side effect of them being avatars of the Annunaki-what's the odds on them not having ways to strike at the physical body through the perspective, 666 to 1? Per acamoth?...
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  • Leliel
    replied to Controlling Paradox (Scelesti)
    Me, I'd be happy if we finally have rules for interacting with Qlippoth, even if it is "here's a list of things you do to escape the inside of one, and rules for making your own challenges."
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  • Leliel
    replied to A Walk in the Hedge
    Well, the Gravewrights need something to do...

    Seriously, though, it's been mentioned that changelings and ghosts have a lot of things in common, so many goblins being the unquiet only fits.

    I'm more interested by the implication you can have a ghost of someone who is technically, y'know...alive?...
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  • Leliel
    replied to Another GMC Tangent
    Silmarillion. Tolkein's own history of Middle-Earth. Goes on about how Sauron was one of the first blacksmiths of Middle-Earth, and ended up creating the Black Speech purely as a simplistic, easily-taught language that was meant to one day be the only language in all the world. And yes, his core motive was making all of the world a clockwork system of ruthless efficiency. In fact, that's one of the big divergences from the book-orcs are not barbarians, they're an advanced army (relatively) that cares only about getting from point A to point B as effectively as possible. Even their cannibalism...
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  • See above. It's hard to believe the Thieves have not undergone a Devouring when the literal final boss is

    the goetic manifestation of patronizing, egotistical "heroism" that views itself as right just because it is heroism.


    Also, Futaba's induction is a classic older sibling-induced Devouring after chasing off an Unfettered.
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  • Leliel
    replied to Another GMC Tangent
    I am trying to keep the horse I have in this conflict safe, but I will say that separating science fiction and fantasy is, and remains, one of the things to be glad Victorian Britain is dead.

    When fucking Tolkien expounds greatly upon the metallurgy of Orcs and the obsession of Sauron with turning the world into his personal factory, it's time to maybe consider that tech has a place next to magic-perhaps even part of it, as Sauron is a literal fallen angel who sinned out of his desire to place tech and militant materialism over his own compassion. It's also worth remembering that...
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  • Leliel
    replied to Controlling Paradox (Scelesti)
    I always try to make Scelesti-the ones who aren't purely horror monsters, anyway-come off as polite and soft-spoken. Serene. Apostles of the Void.

    This is because of the fundamental temptation of the Abyss: We can give you whatever you want. And we are fair in our asking prices. Desire is the only law here.

    The thing about the Abyss is, as Dave mentioned, it is not evil; it's an infection. A virus isn't killing you because it hates you, it's simply because hijacking your cells and commandeering your body to leap to other hosts is the only way it can survive and reproduce....
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