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  • Yeah, Im still digging. There was a twitter post saying a new rules pdf would be released in a week or two, so there's at least that if no one ends up spoiling anything on the internet.

    Though considering the convention isn't over yet, and the playtest was at 15:00 Stockholm time today, we may not see anything for a day or two out of anyone tat played, especially if they're still enjoying the convention....
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  • You could adapt the NWoD MET rules, where each dot after the first grants XP to the retainer. The first dot gets you a normal ghoul with the ghoul creation rules, then each dot after is 10 XP....
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  • I wish. I'm on the wrong side of the world, but I plan on getting the information going together in one place once anything is leaked on Saturday.
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  • elmerg
    replied to Paths and the Sabbat in 5e
    I'm actually relatively alright with the rules changes we've seen in the newer alpha. I like the streamlined combat. I like Hunger. I am ambivalent towards Touchstones, as I get their purpose but they're easy enough for me to switch to 'things that tie you to Humanity to offset the monstrous urges of the Beast' if it doesn't end up written that way, I'm okay with the Discipline changes (I'm used to things like each level of the Physical Disciplines having individual effects, as a LARPer). Compulsions I feel run alright, they weren't as intrusive as a lot of people scream about. I'm okay with the...
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  • elmerg
    replied to Paths and the Sabbat in 5e
    There's no time to make massive sweeping changes. If they're shipping in August for the core, they have ot have the text edited in June to print in July....
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  • elmerg
    replied to Paths and the Sabbat in 5e
    They posited something when the first alpha came out about how Generation MIGHT work. Generation there gave a Blood Potency rating, which represented concentrated vampiric power; gen 13-10 had 0; 9th-7th had 1, 6-5 had 2, and 4th had 3. You subtracted that potency rating from the total when checking for Hunger at the end of a scene, it added to stuff for Compulsions (representing a stronger Beast) and subtract BP from the amount of Hunger lost (meaning if you WERE hungry it took more to fil up). Obviously not 100%, but a decent start....
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  • elmerg
    replied to Paths and the Sabbat in 5e
    There was a post elsewhere that stated that there would be some reference to the Sabbat in the core books, along with some art (this came from an interview and some Tzimisce art from the MMO that the guy involved with the big LARP in November). I know people aren't happy, but having the Sabbat immediately playable was not a design goal for V5, as stated by the devs multiple times.



    That's not quite equivalent to what's being discussed here, and you know it's not. The analogy breaks down because WW has stated that the initial intent of V5 is to pull back and play Camarilla...
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  • elmerg
    replied to Paths and the Sabbat in 5e
    It's not 'widely considered,' it's been officially stated to be the metaplot bridge into V5. Not that storyline =/= mechanics is a new phenomenon.

    Also, I keep seeing a lot of talk in this thread about 'different humanity mechanics for the Sabbat'. We don't know ANYTHING about what's going to be in the Sabbat book, and these Humanity rules from the alpha may have also changed in the interim period....
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  • elmerg
    replied to So should I pre-order V5?
    If V5 plays close to BJD and continues the Ravnos plot thread there, it seems like they're gearing up for an internal civil war between Ravana, Hazimel and Chandraputa, and potentially finding their missing sister Marizhavashti....
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  • No worries. Gehenna is often synonymous with apocalypse, so it's immediately where my mind went....
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  • Just as a clarification, V5 doesn't posit that Gehenna happened; it's positing that a Gehenna is//might be happening right now, but it's more of a 1e style Gehenna, which was less like the Gehenna book scenarios. They've stated more than once these things still exist, as exampled by them showing up left, right and center in Beckett's Jyhad Diary, which is the official plot lead in to V5. They just won't be written up in the core book, which is a deliberate throwback to 1e where those things weren't written up either.

    That said, if you wanted to look at post-apocalypse vampire stuff,...
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  • elmerg
    replied to V5 questions
    Sorry to constantly reiterate that it's just the alpha so far; there's a LOT of places around the fandom that are still 'OH GOD THE FINAL GAME SUCKS BECAUSE OF X' and X being something from the pre-alpha that has already changed, for example.

    Using Dodge prevents you from potentially getting hurt, and you can attempt to flee from the combat immediately. If you're outgunned, you get to attempt to flee more easily, which can be useful if you're a squishy social character against a combat wombat.

    I'd say that's one likely aspect of it, but typically Heightened Senses also...
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  • elmerg
    replied to V5 questions
    At least the alpha...
    1. No. You'd still have to get more successes than the attacker, since all close combat relies on a roll-off.
    2. Seems so. But we don't have full context.
    3. Right.
    4. Not in the alpha, but it's a playtest, not a sweeping statement of what the book is.
    5. Looks like the most commonly-used dice pool for it, as it's in the same place as other dice pools for the things that those powers either do, or benefit, like the resisted Dominate roll.

    And all of this is, again, an alpha, so I'd take anything there with a grain of salt....
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  • Right. That's what I was getting at. He's not in the author list, and that is a pretty good indicator that he's not contributing to the book....
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  • elmerg
    replied to So should I pre-order V5?
    It's not for sure, but most of us are expecting it. It happened after the last 2 conventions, there was material released about a week after. PDXcon is May 18-20, so I'd expect about month end if we're getting one....
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  • elmerg
    replied to 5e clans
    We don't know. Beckett's Jyhad Diary posits a Tremere under the leadership of SauloTremere in the form of a White Worm, with a passage about a possibly brainwashed Council of Seven and a 'chyrsalis' used in conjunction with the worm-form, and a Tremere named Carna with a magic book that breaks blood bonds running around recruiting other Tremere. So, probably not as tight-knit as they were....
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  • elmerg
    replied to 5e clans
    Tegyrius makes the most political sense, being the Vizier Caste and the push for the Assamite Schismatics to join the Cam, but I'd love to see Al-Ashrad in there....
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  • elmerg
    replied to So should I pre-order V5?
    I'd say hold on for a bit. The preorders will be up until the books start shipping in August. A lot of us are expecting another 'final preview release' later this month, since they said they're going to have a showing of it at PDXcon....
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  • 'According to nuWW'. He's not on the author list for the damn book....
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  • Also, the much-maligned Nosferatu concept art? Apparently that's recycled from the WoD MMO. So WW isn't actually to blame for that....
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