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The problem with all that you're saying is that they can 'work off' their clan flaw over time. They need something worthwhile as a flaw else they have no flaw technically. Excluding them from a proprietary discipline was my move cause i know there'll be those Caitiff who cheat the system. Fake like another brujah (oh, i'm angry all the time so i must be one of you guys), or a ventrue (yeah, i totally feed on a select group of people....) or toreador (yeah this painting is like...so avant garde).

So technically yeah, i'm acknowledging they have no real clan flaw. SO therefore they...

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I have been developing mine using all the plethora of Guide books (storyteller, Camarilla, Sabbat, etc). For relationships I've been working using Visio to try to make a more detailed version of relationship charts. In lieu temporarily you can use Mr. Gone's sheets.

In addition to the good advice you get here, make sure someone else (or multiple critiques) physically grabs and looks at your stuff you're writing. You are almost always missing something, and you likely THINK that you put it down the truth is that you overlook something. I know I have a lot of to-do items that i...

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I have it a bit more stringent. You need 1 blood from the originator of the discipline and they have to coach you along to learn it (for every level). Otherwise once you give something to a dirty caitiff, they'll all learn it eventually. So that means multiple low level blood bonds, or higher level bonds to people to learn more.

But joking aside. It doesn't feel like Caitiff have any flaw at all. Most people don't role-play their social stigma.

To support their flaw, I found someone who introduced proprietary disciplines and modified it. Everyone gets access to...

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was trying to copy paste image into here but it says i'm not allowed....

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Ha. Fame 1. University professor.

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Wow! Is this book still in print? That sounds pretty good. I’ll have to delve more....

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Yeah. I didn’t make him high generation like the others. I arbitrated that based on the fact some mages can extend their lives and tremere wanted actual ageless was, not just longevity. He could have jumped on the bandwagon late.
Being torpored was an idea. It would justify his overall nerf in power vs other regeant’s. But he’s too smart to suffer anachronism. (I already have an npc with that and the players love it)
As for the duty, it’s extemely obviously dangerous. And you know there isn’t much room for promotion unless you bump off someone ahead of you. So I took that...

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No doubt. I can’t imagine Vienna allowing anyone to be regeant without countermagic. How else could they stop neonates and fledglings who run out of line?(rhetorical)

So after reading them I think there is overlap between spirit thaumaturgy, biothaumaturgy, and existing necromancy paths. I’d probably just give him some necromancy.

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Originally it was in fact a small urban area on top of leylines. Their primary assignment was to analyze them and collect power. In addition after the Anarch Quelling (my plot point and alternate history) it allowed tremere clan to openly scour around In search of artifacts they couldn’t before.

Since playing someone else gave me a grand idea to turn it into a mobile chantry on a cargo ship which could travel along the coast, redistributing tremere/ghouls/assets to other chantry’s coffers as the local lord saw fit. Mix that with like the path of Neptune or something and gain...

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Population control that’s already in place:

The book already says embraces don’t always work. No need to add a homebrew mechanic unless you desire to. There isn’t a listed reason but the first time it fails you can expect others to be careful (losing someone you care about from a botched embrace is emotionally devastating).

Hunters and other supernaturals hunt kindred on the regular. No one is safe.

Forced infighting by Camarilla and Sabbat keep younger populations down. (Plot potential)

Hatfield and Clyde drama between clans keeps populations...

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5 is subterfuge isn’t necessarily famous. Jokes aside I’d let the players. I wouldn’t associate fame with mastery per se.
Unless they help the Camarilla in another way they should have a skill of 5 else why embrace them unless they’re fodder?

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Sorry. I meant like a logo same as the clan logos maybe. Idk.

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Ok, after thinking about it after reading all this and binging SG1 i consider expanding expression into the linguistics skill set also. It was well portrayed that even though some people didn't know the languages they interpreted them well. I'll fold the old linguistics style mechanics into expression but keep actual languages as a merit. Academics is still valuable on its own as it knows the history about the language.

Changing the carousing roll to charisma + expression instead.

I'm also gonna take a hard look at these hobbies, professions and expertise and make...

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Legendre you put up a good point. MiB had a lot of jokes when they flashed people and didn't express the right kind of memory revision they wanted them to have.

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One of the specialties for expression says right there "conversation". Also carousing and having a good time socializing are two different things. Ask hobnobs, socialites, and diplomats....

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Perhaps my expression dots are low. So I'll spend a willpower point.

Imagine me sitting back in my computer chair scratching my chin as i dissect the best possible avenue to explain this system to newbies and run a fantastic campaign for them that runs through nearly all avenues of using their skills. Then i come across expression, which is like charisma for DnD. It exists, but is horribly mechanic-ed and gets revised a lot. In fact Carousing in drama and systems has Charisma + Empathy as its roll (not expression...).

I based my idea of how the system was supposed...

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Those other skills get use with disciplines too. Not expression.

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Is there a symbol or icon to brand diablerists?

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Murdoc. Check the systems and drama chapter, it’s only used twice. Seriously.

Maris Streck good idea but what specialties could be used in lieu of that which won’t cause overlap?

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Still not a fan that there are only 2 rolls that Expression skill is used for. What if I replace that with Languages (remember when that was a skill, then it became a merit?)?

Then any roll previously requiring Expression (which is only 2) is replaced by Languages skill.

I personally wouldn't use Expression as art, just put that in crafts. So honestly only replacing 1 roll.