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  • While I'm asking about Huntsmen - anyone want to Explain To Me Like I'm Five how the returning the Heart thing works? I find this section in the rule book very confusing:


    So, the Changeling first has to find the Heart - presumably by either tricking or persuading the Huntsman somehow into leading them to it but in the paragraph above it says Huntsmen can never ever find the Bastion their heart is in so.... I guess they somehow have to find it completely on their own? Okay, good luck with that, but I guess that's straightforwardish...

    Once they find the heart, the...
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  • Difference of outcome is definitely a good approach.

    But, yeah, overall... Chronicles of Darkness rules don't fit together as "tightly" as like D&D 5E - nor are they nearly as well play-tested. I prefer CoD, but, like...the rules really are meant to be interpreted by humans and have the gaps filled in by the Storyteller's sensibilities. Coming from a game like D&D, you really need to treat CoD rules as, well, "less of a rule, more of a guideline"....
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  • I think it is important to remember that like...rulebooks are really just instructions for how to make the game happen at your table. What really matters is that the group is grooving and arguments over "which attribute" don't drag things down.

    So far, far more important than whatever the book might say is that your group be in rough accordance during play. I suspect every single group will draw the lines between attributes slightly different places, and that's fine.
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  • I always tend to presume within a Freehold that there's a fair bit of mutual assistance going on, at least when it comes to threats coming from the Gentry. But I guess not everyone plays it that way?...
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  • Perhaps not a simple question, but how much do you think your average group of Changelings know about how the Huntsmen work?

    Like if you find out you're being hunted by a Huntsman and ask around the Freehold, do you think you're gonna be able to find out "oh yeah, they're pretty nasty - not affected by iron, come back from the dead, etc - but they have a missing heart so if you can somehow find the bastion it is hidden in and go in you might be able to get an oath out of them"?

    It seems like such information is intended to be a kind of "mysterious secret...
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  • What are the core conflicts in the Changeling chronicles you've ran or played in?

    I'm asking specifically about games you've actually run or played in, not theoretical answers about Changeling in general or future chronicles you have planned.

    What have the core conflicts in your games been?

    It seems a lot of the rulebook pushes you towards a cycle of different attempts by the Fae to recapture your PCs, either directly or via huntsmen or loyalists, and the different shennanigans PCs engage in to try to avoid capture - or to try and "power up" to make themselves more difficult to capture in the future.

    But when I hear people t...
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  • I take it you don't read any real meaning into "her victims turn upon one another" other than just the most likely "closest target" is probably going to be another victim of the power, but they do not have to be?

    Do you have victims target the vampire triggering the power if they happen to be close (which the probably will be, giving the blood-spilling requirement)?...
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  • Feral Infection questions:

    If the vampire doesn't specify a target (or a supernatural victim spends willpower to ignore such), "her victims turn upon one another". Does this mean that the frenzied creatures will only attack other people who have been affected by the power? Will they not attack the vampire who used the power(since they are not one of the "victims")? What happens when there's only one person left who is affected by the power(or only one person failed their resistance roll)? Do they come out of frenzy? Or do they attack other non-frenzied people in...
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  • Do not rule out the possibility that there is no intended secret. The writer may have just been like "here's a cool plot thread to fill in" and not actually have anything they firmly intended.

    I strongly suspect that's the case with the Nameless in the Montreal setting for Requiem, for instance....
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  • Now I'm curious - what were the infamous development issues? I was kind of out of the fandom when it was coming out, so wasn't paying attention....
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  • Honestly I keep running into places in Changeling 2nd edition where it felt like the book was a battleground between contributers who were maybe immersed in Changeling lore but only kinda skimmed the Chronicles of Darkness rules and didn't care for the unified mechanics much, vs others who were very invested in updating Changeling to use CofD rules.

    Lots of things I love about Changeling 2nd edition, but it does feel like it needed another draft to iron out some of this stuff that feels less like really smart intentional design choices and more like "eh, this is what our freelancer...
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  • Does anyone know who was Prince before Maxwell was the first time in Chicago by Night? I can only find references to Maxwell and the Matriarch and not much about Chicago before 1965 or so.

    I could do a detailed re-read myself, but my guess is that if the information is in there someone in here already knows it.
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  • Wade L
    replied to Hedge Navigation questions
    This is always, like everything in this game, pretty vague and ultimately up to the Storyteller.

    How I work it, generally, is that you kinda search through the Hedge hoping to find what you recognize as your destination. But, like - you still have to be able to recognize it when you see it. You can search for anything, but the Hedge won't lead you there if you don't know what you're looking for.

    So if you go searching for "Fred's secret Hollow", the Hedge will lead you to something you think looks like Fred's secret Hollow. Doesn't mean it is Fred's. But it'll...
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