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  • I think that Book of Kiths is a chapter of the Kith and Kin book? Or an appendix?...
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  • What? Umm... these are the 12 kiths in the core book? I was just curious to see how they matched up to the Seemings/Regalia?

    I'm not sure where you're getting anything about the kith book except for the tongue-in-cheek joke about the next stretch goal for Kith being Mirror. Everything else is talking about core....
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  • MCN
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    Hmm... how were the kiths divided up that we do have? Based on 1e, this is what we have:

    Beast - Hunterheart,
    Darkling - Leechfinger, Mirrorskin, Nightsinger
    Elemental - Snowskin
    Fairest - Bright One, Playmate
    Ogre - Gristlegrinder,
    Wizened - Artist, Chatelaine

    Helldiver and Notory are new, but the former is clearly darkling in nature (larceny and vanishing like new darkling blessing) while the latter seems to fill the middle-management role the Wizened are said to occupy, putting them there. Nightsinger, despite being darkling traditionally,...
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  • I have to confess that the Lance is my first love. That said, Cruac is my favorite covenant advantage, even if I don't like the covenant itself....
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  • MCN
    replied to Changeling Kickstarter Discussion
    I'm leery of doing anything, since we're going to be likely seeing a lot of social contracts that do exactly that kind of thing, and Seeming stuff seems to be pretty weak / short lived. Darklings turn to shadow for 3 rounds. Beaten Down lasts three rounds (and even then, can keep fighting by spending willpower). Elementals can psychokinesis elements up to 3 yards. Fairest spend a willpower to boost others for +3 dice. Beasts get +3 speed/init. Notice a lot of threes.

    At best, we're looking at a +3 bonus when forcing doors, and, to be perfectly blunt, that's kind of weak for a changeling...
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  • MCN
    replied to Changeling Kickstarter Discussion
    not a set schedule, but we were told that Clarity preview was going to be out this week. Likely today or tomorrow....
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  • MCN
    replied to Changeling Kickstarter Discussion
    Here's the preview that Rose dropped about the Autumn Court Contracts. They work on the same principle as Contracts of Steed we saw earlier, just without the added Regalia bonuses.

    http://forum.theonyxpath.com/forum/m...43#post1141443
    Here's the Contracts of Steed preview with some more info on how Contracts work - http://theonyxpath.com/contracts-of-...ling-the-lost/

    And for the fun of it, how to do your own contracts - http://forum.theonyxpath.com...
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  • MCN
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    Where did this get mentioned? I don't see it anywhere....
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  • MCN
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    The association between regalia and seeming might be obvious, but the connection between Book of Kiths: insert favorite Regalia here and seeming isn't.

    The first four books of the 1e game line were Autumn Nightmares, Lords of Summer, Spring Rites and Winter Masques. Despite the names, these four books had almost nothing to do with the actual Seasonal courts. Autumn Nightmares was about antagonists, Winter Masques was about messing with default assumptions of seemings, kiths, non-seasonal court systems and I believe there was a section on the Hedge in there as well; Rites of Spring...
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  • MCN
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    Well, technically, kiths were optional in 1e as well. That almost virtually NEVER happened. I can't think of a single PC that I've seen has ever been without a kith. Saying they're optional, from a player standpoint, is pretty much a non-starter at this point. People always craved them, more so than Entitlements, in my experience.

    As for the book of kiths only having a Crown section... that's pretty false. There's already going to be a Kith book, even without Crown. We're just expanding from the base book....
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  • Well, here's how I think about it. Kiths grant you a specialty, just a different bonus instead of +1 dice. So, here's the question I think we should be asking. What skills will your bob-omb be using in the course of play? The specialty is going to be "destroying things," but how is that going to be done?...
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  • Hrm.... so, I'm just going to ramble here and talk about potential points you might want to consider. Take or leave the advice as you wish.

    It sounds like you're trying to make the elemental warrior FS* as a kith to a greater or lesser extent. Or, at least something along those lines. In either case, comparing the two, we can see that the EWFS lists distances and dice pools. You have neither listed in the second, and only a dice pool in the first. Kind of necessary for this kind of ability. Also, if we're doing fire, we should talk about Size and Intensity of flames, and how...
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  • In 2e? I don't think we have any information about how to stat non-ling, non-Gentry fae things up.

    There are hedge ghosts, who likely will use Rank and Essence, but do fae-like things. There's the oneroi who will do their dream stuff. There's random non-hedge fae besides the huntsmen. Huntsmen might remain close to the same, if they do, there's no Wyrd or glamour there.

    So, hobs? Could be anything at all....
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  • MCN
    replied to [2E] Ogres are *Metal*?
    Metal as in the slang usage. Hardcore. Bad a**. Etc.
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  • MCN
    replied to Changeling Kickstarter Discussion
    Okay. Thank you for the answers. I appreciate it....
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  • MCN
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    People keep saying 12 kiths. Do we know those are the only core kiths, or we assuming that some weren't cut from the preview?
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  • depends. Did the site remember to put a bit of Vinc on the new vampire?

    joking aside, there are no mechanical penalties, but there are easy ways around all vampire disciplines. Lashing out, avoiding eye contact, tracking clues, clash of wills. Things a sire has a better chance of winning....
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  • MCN
    replied to Changeling Kickstarter Discussion
    Another 13K until we hit the last stretch goal.
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  • MCN
    replied to Changeling Kickstarter Discussion
    I put down for the $25 dollar level. I have all the old 1e PDFs, no desire for a hard cover or PoD, so I guess I don't have a reason to bid higher.

    Anyways. Looking over the preview, and wow. Things look pretty different. We have about 12 kiths and the seemings, if you want to try playing a game using this. A lot of background information is floating around.


    @Charlaquin There's a couple mechanics that references Clarity. There's a couple that say "you risk Clarity damage," which I originally presumed to mean "roll for a breaking point"...
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  • MCN
    replied to why are the yozis prisons intentionally flawed?
    My vote is that you need the cracks as a form of pressure valve. Otherwise, kaboom.
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