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  • Kyman201
    replied to second titan war
    I dunno if I'd say that's indicative of anything other than "Lookit these critters"
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  • Kyman201
    replied to On Mantles - What the Heck!?
    I mean, I think at Hero level, the closest you have to a Mantle is found in your Legendary Titles. A collection of your Titles and your Deeds and your Callings. It's the beginning of forming an Identity.

    I figure the mechanics of building a Mantle is accomplishing Deeds. Doing stuff.

    We Know who Zeus is. We Know what he does. The big Law Thunder Sky fellow who cut his siblings from the stomach of his father, who led the charge against Typhon. Whose very presence ensures Law, especially Xenia, the Law of Hospitality. The answers to "Who is Zeus?" is the Mantle....
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  • Kyman201
    replied to Question about the Tuatha?
    Hold on let me tag an expert...

    Watcher would you care to weigh in?

    And the relationship between the Tuatha and the Irish of centuries ago was... CONTENTIOUS, from what I know. Which to be fair is like, next to nothing. Many of the oldest stories we have of the Tuatha de Danann come from a culture that would feel very odd to us. Most of them weren't even really worshipped in the early 800s the same way we think of worshipping Gods today.
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  • Kyman201
    replied to Other Worlds and aliens in Scion?
    I admit that if I were to go Full Space Opera with Scion, I'd be focusing less on aliens (though if I did I'd be making them mostly separate and maybe make some Gods for them) and more on what happens when a Hero goes Cosmic.

    Like, I'd want to run adventures about Tuatha longboats sailing among the stars, or intrepid Heroes dipping into the Otherworld and finding out that if you go into THIS forest in Ireland and follow this path through the Otherworld, you come out on a forest on another human colony. Yeah it takes a week for you to make the trip, and you're gone from the mortal...
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  • Kyman201
    replied to On Mantles - What the Heck!?
    Mantles are a vague concept as of yet. I think of them as a kind of Mythic Identity. I prefer to use them for instances of like, regional variations. When you have one culture that worships Zeus THIS way, but another that worships him THAT way, and the two are different aspects, that may be something akin to a Mantle.

    Until then I like to think of acts of Claiming Mantles and Mantles worn by different beings... Y'know, it's like recurring roles in a stage play. (Simile stolen from someone else, just an FYI)

    Like, okay, Hamlet. Hamlet is a play that's been performed countless...
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  • Kyman201
    replied to Other Worlds and aliens in Scion?
    Shockingly, going "But they've been doing this for decades" in no way sidesteps, erases, or denies the things I noted. That just means that some people have been doing it for like, less than a century?

    And I'm not saying don't do it, I'm just saying that you gotta be really effing careful or else you may fall face-first into "Obviously the Pyramids were built by aliens because those primitive brown people could never figure out MATH"


    Okay we may be thinking of different Reptilians in pop culture, let me just list the trappings I'm familiar with....
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  • Kyman201
    replied to Other Worlds and aliens in Scion?
    I'd be very careful with these kinds of connections. Like, the whole Ancient Aliens thing is a theory that while superficially Neat is a little reductionist, rather imperialist, and a LOT racist. But that's a whole thing I won't dig too deep into, so instead I'll just say this:

    I'm all for aliens in Scion. But I wouldn't attribute any Gods or other legendary being to their presence. Unless like, aliens land and turns out they worship Durga too, that'd be pretty funny. But I wouldn't go around saying "Oh yeah, these Gods, these Denizens, these animal folk? Aliens. Totally."...
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  • Kyman201
    replied to Gods and the Wealth of Nations
    I think in the World of Scion it very explicitly says that worship of the Gods is even more widespread than it is in our world. And maybe it's my American showing, but whilr the US is very heavily Christian territory (as the demoninations peck and headbutt) there are still people in this world we live in where people, despite not living in the regions that these religions originate in, still believe and worship.

    I figure it's moreso in the World of Scion. I figure the Kami may appear in Brazil, which had a massive wave of Japanese immigration, as well as the shrines built to them...
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  • Kyman201
    replied to second titan war
    I admit I did like the snark in some of Ragnarok's Sidebars.

    Chiefly, the one that notes "Hey your players may say that Fenris can't run at Ragnarok if they kill him. GEE NONE OF THE OTHER GODS WITH EPIC INTELLIGENCE EVER CONSIDERED THAT! Yes this is a bad idea: Let your players discover that for themselves."...
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  • Kyman201
    replied to [2E] Scion RP Anchors
    Yeah like if a Path noting "Kid from a single-parent household in the Bronx" isn't enough of an anchor for your character, you can like... Make a note. "Hates injustice" or something.
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  • Kyman201
    replied to Gods and the Wealth of Nations
    I think that most other gods are ACKNOWLEDGED, even if not by their worshippers.

    But like, even if Shiva demonstrably exists... Let's say that when at the funeral of your favorite grandparent, they were having a traditional Kemetic funeral... And nobody else seemed to notice it, but you SWEAR you saw someone who one moment was a human, and then was a jackal, and you saw your grandparent's soul leave with them.

    Like, yeah, the other Gods demonstrably exist. But sometimes you have ones that are YOURS. And it's a very personal, very intimate thing. One cosmology being true...
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  • Kyman201
    replied to On Player Characters and Sorcery
    I think the book is called Saints And Monsters.

    It also will cover more options for Saints, as implied by the title...
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  • Kyman201
    replied to [2E] Scion RP Anchors
    Your character is kind of defined by their Paths. The Paths explain where you come from, who you are, what you do, they mark which skills you picked up through your life, your Paths define where you can go, who you know, their basic training, their ways of life.

    You gain experience from accomplishing your Deeds, so those work for defining what your character wants.

    If you want to play World of Darkness, you can play World of Darkness, but I don't think that it's good to port mechanics from World of Darkness into Scion. Slightly different systems, very different gamefeels,...
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  • Kyman201
    replied to Gods and the Wealth of Nations
    This strikes me as a very "Every Table has an individual answer" question.

    As for how it goes at MY table... The line is tough to draw in a lot of cases.

    Like, at what point do you separate the actions of the presence of a God from their worshippers? Where's the line between "This was done by human hand without Gods" and "This was done due to Gods"?

    Like, the Deva. The Deva are everywhere, and it is through their presence at all levels that the universe functions. When a poet writes amazing prose, was that purely their effort?...
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  • I'd probably give Z_Z_Z some form of Deception.

    I also like to imagine that it's not pronounced "Zzzzz" but is actually best approximated by making that Internet Dial-Up noise. Specifically the crackly part after the "BEEP BOOP BEEP BEEP BOOP" part. Mostly because just imagine.

    Teros Hero: And then one of our greatest enemies- [Crackly static screech]

    Tuatha Hero: The fucking hell was THAT?!

    Teros: I mean she ate her own name and so best we can refer to her is that sound. Or calling her the Unspeaker.

    Tuatha:...
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  • I mean the Atlantis section starts with "The default assumption is that Atlantis in the World is dead. However, if you want Atlantis-" and then it gives a brief primer.

    The time is "Atlantis has existed for a long time, and still does to this day"

    The location is "Zipped up somewhere along the Z axis so that people from outside can't easily find it"

    But I presume it's somewhere in the Atlantic Ocean, possibly somewhere in the Mediterranean Sea
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  • Also I gotta say... LOVE IT! Fucking nerd that I am I went to the Teros first and I love everything about them
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  • I think it's supposed to be a Denizen Path. Y'know, like Kitsune or Saint. So you've got to sub in a Path (pick three relevant Skills, since the sample Skills in the Origin Book I took as Suggestions rather than ironclad associations) and then take the Calling to use the Knacks. Like all Denizens....
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  • Kyman201
    replied to second titan war
    I mean maybe I'm the odd one but I don't really think that the Titans need to band together in any kind of large capacity. Most of them have their own agendas and desires, and not all of them have a lot of overlap. Like I don't think Apep has a very big interest in working together, since his motivations begin and end with "Eat Ra, end everything"

    Hell I saw someone joke that even in cases where their aims kinda overlap (like various Entities that want to eat the sun) you can actually use that as a way to divide them by going "So hey, Fenrir, if Apep eats the sun what're...
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  • Kyman201
    replied to Crucible of Legends
    I feel very confident in saying that there'll be alternate Craft rules, I'm pretty sure I saw that mentioned by one of the writers.
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