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  • That's something that I never quite understood about modern takes on relationships. It's as if they want each individual to be a complete level field with the exact same..."everything". It's unnatural, to me. And, as you said, with kindred relationships, that's next to impossible to find and having a relationship with someone more powerful and more experienced than you has far too many benefits.

    And thanks for reminding me that these types of relationships are more historically evident, as I can use that between the relationship between my neonate and his sire....
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  • Perfectly put, thank you....
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  • I'm unsure of how I'd handle the Gehenna War ending, itself, but I'd have a lot of elders and even some methuselahs coming back. One great plot point could be that a lot of them want their old positions back and might be unsatisfied with how their childer have handled things in their absence, so they begin embracing new very low generation childer and begin instructing them, poised to take back their old positions.
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  • I must disagree. The Beast is not something that constantly controls every vampire's actions, nor does it mean the vampire cannot love another of their own or a mortal with the Beast in the background. The Beast is like our Id, lower self, primal man, whatever you want to call it. It even exists in humans too, but is magnified in vampires. They're still capable of forming relationships; even regular vampires, besides our own PCs and NPCs.

    Like I said before, it takes away agency from character. I love the struggle between the Beast and our own humanity/selves. I provides a perfect...
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  • Neonate/Elder and Sire/Childe Romance

    What is everyone's opinion on these relationship dynamics? What if they are both at the same time?

    Many people will say that they are inherently abusive or predatory, which is something I definitely do not agree with, as it removes agency from characters and railroads them onto a sort of misery porn genre of storytelling, which gets very old, very quickly.

    I've discussed this before with other players, seeing as my own Toreador neonate is in love with his sire, who he is in a relationship with (the status of which varies between chronicles). His sire is a 700 or 500+...
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