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  • I wouldn't have most of the spirits that the Garou have truck with become aimless and power-hungry, myself, but I'm in agreement with everything else.



    Well, that angle was brought up in the 2nd edition player's guide in one of the point-by-point essays that Ethan Skemp covered on the game's premise, as well as the 2nd edition Book of the Wyrm, so it's been out in the wild for nearly 20 years, and the game that's built on those principles has way more in-print time than the older material, which was only slightly less clear on those points. Some people just aren't going...
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  • It varies depending on what you're trying to do. The set difficulty of 9 is pre-W20.

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    Yeah, it would really depend on how well fortified the dome was. Said garou with monkey totem and desperate strength will still be capped at +5 strength from the Feat role bringing at strength 5 character in crinos to a wopping 14. Unless the Vampires were super prepared(or had a bank vault, 4" steel rebar and 8" of concrete is to much for anything less than 15 in my book.which unless you're a rank 6 phillidox/galliard with "break the bonds" isn't happening) the...
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  • Even the most modern of W:tA books are still set to get older the moment that the text is set and fall out of date in some respects....
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  • Keeping in mind that Werewolf has been very conducive to changing things based on developing understanding of phenomena, mind. It might have said that at some point, but we have those huge appendices on actual animal facts in the backs of breed books for a reason. Werewolf has typically been quite amenable to changing its tune based on changing real world knowledge of animal life and behavior....
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  • I would assume that difficulties fitting in had way more to do with Rage and The Curse than anything else, since those are by far the most apparent signs that everyone picks up on - "This one is dangerous! This one feels wrong!" cuts across both groups of kin....
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  • And anyone who actually is in close proximity to them knows that they're canny, tool-using animals that will cooperate to stage an escape even over an electrified fence. If you underestimate them, they will break out, and in short order. Conversely, if you teach them to dress themselves and take high tea, they will also do this quite admirably (and if they're making a cacophony and throwing things around, it's because humans deliberately set out to lead them to perform these tasks incorrectly for the purposes of spectacle provided to extremely insecure human observers).


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  • Bone Gnawers even have a first-ranked Gift to make feats of strength easier, albeit at the cost of voluntary bashing damage. Higher-ranked characters might not even need to bother, and certain scar fetishes or other concealable spirit-binding tricks might simply cut through the Gordian Knot of the dome through other means, such as a slagger talen (consult the older Glass Walkers tribe book) melting part of it open, or being a child of the Monkey King totem, which reduces the difficulty of all rolls to escape or evade captivity by 2....
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  • Most of the oxygen on Earth was actually produced by various forms of photosynthetic bacteria like algae, and over the several hundred million years, the inter-relation of aerobic organisms' metabolic processes and various producers has tuned the content of the atmosphere in keeping with what those organisms need to survive. Most trees don't utilize the oxygen that they produce when it comes time to respire; they get it from the same place that non-photosynthetic organisms do, the huge pool of it that's surrounding them with a partial pressure of roughly 21% of the single atmosphere pressing...
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  • Everything you need to know about the 2012 Lorax was that they used the titular character in SUV commercials. He wasn't trying to sabotage them, either. Truly, nothing is sacred, and the cosmos is a mad thing that makes no sense.



    At least you expect an elephant to totally wreck you by stomping and goring you just once. Weretiger war forms were just as strong and tough as those of the elephants, and they had more Dexterity to boot. And the hell of it? The book had the gall to poo-poo the concept of were-tyrannosaurs as overpowered. When it offered the opportunity...
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  • There wasn't nearly as much hunting of large game as pop culture tends to suggest. The majority of animal food caught by hunter-gatherers tended to be small game (chickens, squirrels, otters, foxes, etc.) via nets and traps, not going out and daring a large herbivore to kick you in the head.

    Because it would. And you would potentially die. The problem is compounded with animals that hunt and eat humans on a regular basis.



    More that keeping humans - even if they're kin to you - from perpetrating affronts to Gaia and serious misbehavior requires a mindset...
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  • I would contest that Subsidiaries in late 2e was a major turning point. It'd have been nice just to have the introduction show up earlier, though 1e's original description of Pentex wasn't actually quite as over the top as some of the mid-point material was.



    I'm going to request some unpacking on this. WW has missed some trends, to be sure, but it was probably too angry to be propaganda back in the early days, and later on, it presented corporate practices as they are, which need few embellishments to be horribly evil.



    Hiring a lot of different...
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  • Could be a Myrmidon Kumoti....
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  • Not banes, but something that's not Gaian and also not nice. This is why, though the caern spirits don't become tainted, they aren't apt to jump up and recoil at the presence of banes as they were before (an important caveat to the rites). In the maybe one or two septs that might be run by the Dying Cubs (tiny camp in a tiny tribe is super-tiny!)....
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    replied to Monday Meeting 11-13-17
    [Magey the Magitech Sprite] NO MAGITECH HEHEHEHEHE!...
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  • The default assumption of the Dying Cubs rites is that Gaian spirits don't empower them, though the text describing them stops way before it gets anywhere close to labeling them as outright Wyrm-given....
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  • I know (in case my own post wasn't clear about that, I did completely understand what you were talking about). Alloying is just one way that you can make spirits upset. Positioning different metals around each other probably doesn't make them happy as far as the construction of the dome as a single thing goes. Also, how would you plan to go about bonding said pieces of the dome together? Because you can't just stick the two things together.

    Lastly, you have to consider that steel reinforcement won't stop the Garou from tearing through it. What is this child of iron but more material...
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  • Even the Dreamspeakers don't match up well enough, since it remains a part of Mage, which is absolutely antithetical to Werewolf in terms of cosmology and approach. The mages would be able to do it if they weren't what they were, but then they wouldn't have any of the powers that allowed them to do it... truly, that is a paradox! (^VVVVV^)...
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  • You really have to ask yourself if this jives with maintaining all Renown at 10 dots, because it feels like it wouldn't be very conducive to it, nor would it make the character the ne plus ultra of what they represent that legendary Rank entails. The horror, as far as Werewolf is concerned when it utilizes its particular horror genre conventions, is that the legend can still die just like anyone else, and die in horrible fashion. Maybe not as easily as lower-ranked characters, but they're still quite definitely mortal....
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  • Composite construction disrupts the spiritual effect that you're going for, probably even if it isn't alloyed, because you intend for a dome to do something, and if it is not completely silver, better luck next time. Also, it feels like you'd need to clean tarnish off of a silver object before the spirit decides to give any more fucks about doing anything....
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  • Though the killjoy mechanics put a limit on how much web you can spin without taking blood from others. Lots and lots of blood. So the Pentex van would also likely have some desiccated corpses fall on the windshield. Kind of a crap shoot on whether they scream in terror or just shrug and go "Eh", though....
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