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It is. The number has been sharply plummeting of late....

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Counterpoint: Being gunned down quickly is not generally the province of playing a monster, or selling point for a game where you play one.



I wouldn't use the C word to describe who brushes it off. A lot of people are set to get flooded off their islands in the Pacific, swept out, or drowned by the rising sea level, for example, and it isn't a far-off thing for them....

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None. Taint is just a kind of scent from being around something. Possession can theoretically go forward without any at all, though someone who doesn't do the kind of acts that would typically result in gaining a bane's attention probably wouldn't be at the top of the list, because they haven't gained the bane's attention. It does only take baby steps to get a bane's attention, though, and there are typically a lot of banes in a city, and few but very persistent banes in rural areas.



Exorcism, of the kind facilitated by the Gift of that name, is technically a survivable...

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Derzhuzad OP is asking if you add in Crinos and presumably other form traits in general to Gift rolls.

I don't recall if there's actually an official answer, unfortunately.

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The First Ronin, you mean. That's the character's name or title, in any case the designation for it.



Albrecht was still a Rank 4 Silver Fang during the Combat Flip Book of Doom incident, per has writeup in Rage: Warriors of the Apocalypse. As Falcon said in Legacy Rite, Jonas's Grandfather didn't have the authority to do anything more than kick Albrecht out of the sept and insult him without renumeration (a moot* point, since Jacob Morningkill died not too long afterward).



Except for Lunatics, which are still more widespread than Ronin....

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...a progression typically described as being a cub or Lost Cub rather than Ronin....

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Generally, you get to be Kinfolk the same way that you get to be a Garou or Fera, by being born that way. The CoG Revised Tribebook had a rite to turn a human into kin, but it also has a rite that involves having sex with other Garou in Crinos, which is supposed to give control over frenzies but contains no mechanics to this effect, so it is highly suspect. There is a rare, roundabout way to manage something similar - kami can have a power that lets them count as Kinfolk to Garou and/or Fera or types of Fera.

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It seems odd to make Dragon Kings more humanoid with greater Essence. That was never really a part of them; they were distinctly pre-human and not at all connected with walking just like humans, like the newer, revised dinosauroid that eschewed the human-like form of upright gait for a more bird-like setup....

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The look of the breed actually seemed to make them lean forward an awful lot, and the text and mechanics acknowledged that their tails were strictly for balance, never for attacking someone. Long ago, another artist described this as being kind of like a less extreme version of a centaur's design (I read the commentary 20 years ago, so I don't recall who).



...at least half the name-concept of the Anklok revolves around the tail, since they're part Ankylosaurus. That doesn't seem like it would go over well. You're also not limited to an overall rigid tail structures...

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Of a highly dubious sort that none of the material after it really assumed was the case. 2nd edition got close to it, but notably avoided saying that you could come out the other end. You go in, but you never get out....

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Well, you are cursed, just not to have to chain yourself to a sturdy and immobile fixture in the basement every three days out of 28 or so. Aside from the transparently named Curse induced from Rage that makes it difficult to talk to anyone that isn't also a monster, the moment you change or dream up your Archid form, you become painfully aware that you've just been handed your shovel, and there's a mountain of shit that's piled up when your ancestors were occupied with pointless bouts of violence.......

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We had a setting where the Neverborn and their minions were the biggest of big bads, but it eventually turned into one where the Ebon Dragon was duping everyone after all, and then people began to question whether or not we actually needed big bads when there were so many other, more compelling and interesting problems in Creation....

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That would probably have the same type of spirit as the Kitsune's As-You-Will Sleeves empowering it, since it was the origin of the concept that said fetish was based on (Hammer & Klaive)....

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#EarlyInstallmentWeirdness...

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This pretty much emphasizes a point that undermines the thread, in that there is no antagonist from another game that other games cannot ignore. Technowhatsits? Voorwho? Antepastos? There's no obligation that makes their presence necessary, and nothing to keep together a unified WoD....

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#AthematicHouserules...

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The opening comic of W20 is not nearly so hopeless. Quite the contrary, in fact. How Garou take the message of hope is up in the air, but it's still possible to take another look at your shit list and realize that you might be doing things out of order. It's not like the game is magically going to be solved even if you do manage that; the Garou and Fera already know what they should be doing, after all. The ranks of the opposition are still stocked up and imposing even if you're fighting the right fights and making amends with allies that you once drove away....

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Well, Garou are night creatures in that they are tied to Luna instead of Helios. But that is a whole different bag apart from Vampire's assumptions, of course....

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Much like most of the Garou and Fera from W:tA. At least, when people don't go mucking about trying to re-manufacture a pre-Revised "Garou gene"...

(wanders off muttering angrily)...

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I don't think we can really call what we get Lamarckism when you can interpret, say, the Exaltation of someone changing them into a different sort of being. That can still be parsed as a mutation or series of mutations. Lamarckism is, to take one example, when all of your lifting ends up causing your descendant to be better at lifting....