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  • Well, the siege weapons have one Charm that automatically activates when you attune to the object, the vehicles act like vehicles and don't have evocations, and the automatons are QCs that are flagged as such and which have to be repaired, so some part of that still exists. Warstriders, incidentally, were intended to be weird things that had both frontloading (the fact that you're in a walking siege weapon, in this case) and Evocations to go above and beyond, which is probably why they're a minimum of Artifact 5 in EX3. I guess we'll see if they hold closer to it in Heirs to the Shogunate....
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  • I don't think that the premise of the Charm system quite agrees with re-skinning. A lot of effort goes into trying to make distinct sets of aesthetics and functions distinct, making that a tricky area at best. One of those areas was supposed to be in ensuring that First Age Wonders that warp the setting genre were more front-loaded and less reliant on Evocations, for example, which would make the bulk of Stormcaller's mechanics ill-suited to being a superconducting katana, to address that one example,...
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  • I mean, technically, there was no getting Artifact N/As at chargen in previous editions for most of the edition, either, since the Legendary Artifact Merit typically didn't show up until later. Also, using merits and flaws as written was akin to wading into an artillery target practice zone.



    That is the default setup for Lunars, after all. They aren't quite as disadvantaged from having nothing, but their enemies are the ones with all of the swag. The Wyld Hunt section of Cult of the Illuminated even dedicates two pages to listing examples of what the Office of Harmony...
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  • Saur Ops Specialist
    replied to Should I run 1st or 3rd edition?
    The list function, when quoted, causes forum pages to distort and bend just as you see.
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  • May The Eagle carry away those words, that they may never return....
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  • Saur Ops Specialist
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    In a fit of cosmic humor, the working shapes up so that the shark teeth have to be in the shark's jaw - no removal or replacement possible! Better hope the sharks stop at just the pressure points......
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  • "And the Terrestrials? They just got into huge orgies and had as many children as possible for the first few decades."

    "…Look, if you're not going to take this seriously, I'm out."...
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  • Saur Ops Specialist
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    There are exactly 0 of these, given the parameters of "Lunar" and "turned aside the Balorian Crusade".

    That was accomplished by one group of Dragon-Blooded and a First Age superweapon.



    1e Tamuz would be careful about it, but even he would still probably have a go at the Dragon-Blooded at the same time.



    It's not like it would even listen to you, anyway. And you're so far away from the Isle, perhaps it's more practical to suggest a relatively closer satrapy instead...



    Most, if not all,...
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  • Excellencies - they made me begin to long for dice to success conversion, as long as it was packaged in with the dice adding Charm and had its cost put under control.
    Which Witches? - Being a witch in Creation is a profession. It's something that Ability Exalted should have as a facet; Attributes are way more a doorway than a practitioner.
    Revlid Worked On It - I presumably don't get along with him, judging by the last interaction I had with him several years ago on the GITP Forums with regard to the underlying assumptions of TAWs. And the time several years before that when we were...
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  • Full-on evaporated, didn't bother backing the KS, won't be buying any more EX3, kicked my thought-space back to 1e, only without including the word "barbarian".



    The Incarnae summoning the Yozis would be about the only way they would get out, and only for a brief time, thought you could potentially get some interesting story ideas about what constitutes a "brief" period of time for the Yozi or Yozis in question, how their behavior is constrained, and how the inhabitants of Creation deal with sitting across from maddened, mutilated titans....
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  • Saur Ops Specialist
    replied to Exalted vs the Titans
    Virtue compulsions only kicked in at rating 3+. So, yes, if someone were uncommonly caring and forgiving, they would have to go through that process, but the typical level of Compassion is just a wee bit under that.



    Another possibility - the Lunar could see folk oppressed by the Realm, even inside the Realm, as possible recruits. So the destruction might be kept at targets that hanged over the populace as a threat, or that the downtrodden hated. Their destruction could inspire the survivors to rise up against the Dynasts and patricians, or at the very least, look to...
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  • Yozi escape was explicitly ruled as not happening in canon back in Games of Divinity, released 2002, so it was really never a viable plan. You won't be fighting the Ebon Dragon because the Ebon Dragon lost and doesn't fight anymore. Bits of him have to do what you say; that's the underlying assumption of the setting, creating a swords and sorcery atmosphere by calling up demons and having them do your bidding. You shouldn't be looking to tear down the entire genre of the setting; you're supposed to engage with it.

    To that end, it doesn't matter which wonders you include, as long...
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  • Saur Ops Specialist
    replied to Exalted vs the Titans
    On the other hand, Creation does contain notions of limited warfare between champions or select groups. The Hundred Kingdoms are the most-extensively described version of it in the setting. Some facets of Lookshy's work to maintain cohesion with the disparate forces of the Confederation of Rivers might also have a similar concept, since they're Shogunate-successors and have records from when warfare was quite a great deal different from the run-down magic Mad Max world it currently inhabits. Creation isn't quite like a historical example because it's arrived at where it was after two apocalypses...
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  • This also describes a lot of JoJo villains, but they usually manage to express this without the Lillun-ing.



    The game would have been better off focusing on the plight of mortals in this context than the exercise in making the Ebon Dragon into a walking cliché among cliches. Also, it's attractive youths in general for most of Creation, including the Realm.



    Infernals were supposed to be viable player characters. Lillun's treatment was, in this context, tying a splat's neck to an anchor with a short chain and launching it overboard. And there...
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  • Explosives are going to do a good deal more damage than shotguns even if the shotgun is loading slugs instead of shot. They're meant to tear apart sturdy metallic and ceramic constructions, after all; the human body pulps readily in the face of that kind of destructive power. It gets even worse if the blast is in an enclosed, sturdy location, like a tunnel; the force gets bounced and funneled back. What remains is typically so much chunky salsa.

    (Can you tell that Shadowrun was my first rpg?)...
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  • Saur Ops Specialist
    replied to Exalted vs the Titans
    The statement by GCG, while admittedly loose, is here. Someone else described the magma monster Mahicara before this post; you can find it in the monthly monster mashes for EX3....
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  • Saur Ops Specialist
    replied to Exalted vs the Titans
    [QUOTE=Sorcerous Overlord;n1317126]The newest godzilla is the skyscraper size. It's extreme range from it's feet to its head. It's beyond the scale of basic hitpoints, i'd make it a series of fights to bring down like Shadow of the Colossus.

    Here's what Google-sifu says:


    Legendary Gojira might be ten T. rex tall (using said Dinosaur's length measurements), but in terms of mass, that's a 9000 T. rex equivalent.



    (Crushes mass measuring-device)



    Well, there are also city-destroying magma monster in 3e to compare...
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  • You could try adapting some of the Autochthonian hazards to reflect similar adverse conditions for Creation's corners. Air could use Lightning or exposure to cryonic fluids, Fire could use some of Steam's mechanics, the tendency of the furthest West to dissolve all into water could be modeled with corrosives, and the less hospitable regions of Wood might have pollen or other solids in the air comparable to the Pole of Smoke.
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  • I'm not clear on how drawing the parallel between two systems of incentivization was that off. At the very least, not after the first clarification.



    You also said that it made their lives easier. That seems to stray outside of this context....
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  • Yes. The point about Crinos was in how harmful means get incentivized and characters thus end up harming themselves in the long run by using them frequently. This is the very definition of not making life easier for said characters, which was the point I was contending. Sidereals are in that boat; the only reason their lives don't get more complicated from lying to people about this and that in order to use Charms or descending destinies is that people forget that they exist in the first place.

    After all, the comeuppance that a trickster receives once the dust settles is usually...
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