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Apocalypse page 32 notes Caine as EoS, specifically as a suggestion rather than hard equivalence....

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Whomever or whatever the first vampire was, it was resonant with the EoS, not its direct manifestation....

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It may be a moot point, in any case, since the Hungry Dead got axed.

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Then the EoS would be punching through into the physical realm again, so probably not that....

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"I need your clothes, your boots, and your walking stick."...

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As noted, it has a lot of early installment weirdness where the Red Talons are concerned. The captive wolf pack organization is probably the most blatant and jarring given how the tribe grew into being presented later on, with the lack of general bent toward ironically torturing and killing humans in twisted reflections of human religious practices being the runner up (only the Dying Cubs are into that, and they're a shadowy, tiny camp in the smallest tribe). In order to get it up to speed, you'd need to change a lot; the only things you can really take away are that there are Red Talons vaguely...

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The best that W:tA could manage was the Red Talons entry for Caerns: Places of Power. Their holdings are outside of a Twin Peaks-esque rural town that's haunted by Dancers and fomori. It'd need a bit of work to make the Garou of the sept compatible with actual wolf behavior/not sound like kinky sex stories, since the author was apparently unaware that wolves don't adhere to the Greek letter hierarchy in the wild....