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  • While I see the alcohol and heroine affecting a vampire in the short term, they can just spend a vitae to cleanse themselves of the effects of it.

    However say, Aids. if you drink someone with aids, how can it survive in a vampire? Most diseases need living hosts to survive in and every night when the vampire sleeps, they reset themselves.

    Pg 215 : Vampires do not tire, do not age, do not falter to disease or poison, hunting the night where none but the greatest of predators tread. Vampires"
    Pg 91 "Anything that wouldn’t constitute a Health level of damage...
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  • Vampires are immune to poison and diseases. There is a huge huge huge thread somewhere with 10+ pages of discussion about this, but since radiation poisons the body causing living tissue to break down /mutate ect I wouldn't say it hurts a vampire....
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    Crimes of passion are not premeditated murder. ( which is why on the chart they are at 4 and 1? I think )


    I do agree with some of this this, but as I have seen with some of my players is that it's not dramatic at all because they simply don't think it's a big deal. I posted those questions because people Naturally have conflicting feelings. You could love your boyfriend who beats the shit out of you but also hate them so very much as well. When you really love your job and dont want to leave, but you know it's best if you do go because something just...
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  • Unless you are told or know you are drinking the vampire's blood, how do you know you are blood bonded? How do you know your feelings aren't real? I know this is getting off topic, but I guess I would like to know how others play it out.

    A vampire slips vitae into Bob the human's coffee every day. Does Bob automatically know that he is blood bonded because he has these strange feelings for Joe?
    Tiffany the vampire was making out with Kevin the vampire and now Tiffany gets all swoony and cant stop calling Kevin 10 times a day... Does Tiffany know that her crush isn't r...
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  • Premeditated killing is 2 and Diablerie is worse than that, so Wouldn't it be logical to place it at 1? ( You can't roll zero dice, so you roll 1 Chance die ~~ Unless you have extenuating circumstances that give you bonus dice. )


    Humanity 1:
    Heinous, spree, or mass murder.

    Diablerie:
    Diablerie is always a breaking point, regardless of the vampire’s
    Humanity score. The very act feels heinous....
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  • Ok. You're right! Not an autoloss. Some reason I thought it was always a loss, but it was always a breaking point. Big fail on my part!!


    If multiple breaking points are hit in one crime, I go with the lowest and the lowest in this case is Diablerie, which is 1 die. I am not sure you can get worse than that other than rolling 1 die twice ( once for 3rd stage BB and 1 for Diablerie )

    However, in the grand scheme of the blood bond. Why would you want to hurt your sire at all? Blood bonds are nasty and it sort of breaks your will to do such things. I struggled...
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  • Since blood bonds are illegal I dont think the character is blood bonded to his sire. (Unless I missed that ) Yes Diablerie is an auto loss....
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  • It was just an example. But it's easily done in combat... if the bad guy's defense is 7 and you only have 3 dice to brawl, you are at -4 so + 3 still gives you -1... which is pointless to use WP. That's where I see it the most. Or doing something against a Safe Place....
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  • In some worlds, they are... So, Why do you assume they are not? Both equally valid.

    If the law is written as, "Blood bonds are illegal." I assume that it doesn't mean, "Blood bonding vampires is illegal." I assume that it means: Blood bonding ( Vampires, ghouls, humans, mages, changelings, werewolves, sin-eaters, ect ) is Illegal....
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  • About the willpower. I have been playing where sometimes it's not useful. Say you have 1 die to something and the ST gives you - 5 for whatever, even if you spent the willpower for +3, you're still -1 and at a chance die.
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  • I play a serial diablerist and have for a good year or two... If you have questions on how I do it. You can PM me.

    Also there is a bloodline to go into if you wanted to. The En.

    One more thing: If blood bonds are illegal, how do vampires have ghouls?
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