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  • AHA! some vampires might like that sort of thing! ~.^...
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  • I think Charlaquinn cleared any confusion magnificently Well without the condecending tone several hours prior to your unnecessary post.

    I most definitely read the whole text, but as I said I interpreted it two different ways. I am not sure if you have noticed, but there are tons and tons of examples where rules and text can be interpreted differently leading to various uses of powers and this very thread. Including toneless text. So if you wanted to correct the post and be helpful to everyone reading, perhaps you could take some advice on tact from some of the other posters...
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  • Thank you for the verification. The example, of 10 hits and subtracting from each hit was correct. If I could have found the thread that confirmed my suspicions I would have stuck to that....
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  • You didn't even snag the whole quote where I said :



    So where exactly did I go wrong?

    The book says you can't use the effect ( which is reducing damage ) more than once per turn but it also says from sources. It's contradictory, which I included both in my original post....
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  • I am positive the blood bond isnt just about integrity. It's about love and desire. The integrity/humanity/whatever is just a mechanical tool to help show and guide that obsession. It wouldn't be rocket science to have that ghost suddenly need to be around the vampire above all other things.
    Besides the breaking point to not hurt your regnant, it also gives the controller bonuses on rolls against the thrall and the thrall takes negatives on rolls against the regnant....
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  • Anything can be acquire the blood bond as per FAQ
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  • Like tessie and I have both said, You take it upon incoming damage, you do not take it, then erase it. If you have 1 resilience, take 14 Bashing, and it is not a bane source you negate 2 bashing damage meaning you take 12 bashing. If you have 7 Health that is 5 Lethal and 2 bashing.

    14 - 2 = 12 = XXXXX / /
    Then if you wanted to or able to you could reflexively heal from the above....
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  • If you are talking about resilience and how to resist the damage, you are correct in the fact you would use different math for different things.

    Bane sources it's just resilience dots, non-bane sources ( which is what I used in my math) is dots +1

    If that 14 Bashing came from 10 different sources you'd probably be in trouble as it says, "No effect of resilience may be used more than once per turn," but again I assumed that it came from one source.

    But it wouldn't matter if you were getting shot, punched or stabbed, or even falling, for vampires...
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  • If you write fire elemental on your paper, it does not mean you can actually gain sustenance from your fire elemental. And I think you missed the metaphor that went along with a tea pot... I do believe that the person did not mean a literal tea pot full of literal tea.

    Even if you were a supernaturally resilient creature that had a bane to fire, it might not be beneficial to feed from a fire creature as you might spend more blood healing than you would be able to get drinking.






    Unnatural Affinity:

    Drawback: This advantage...
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  • Resilience goes into effect when you are hit. So if you were hit for 14B it would resist that as per your resilience dots. If you were hit for 2L it would deal with that and you would take 0. You do not mark your damage, then erase it. So if you had 1 resilience you would still take 12 bashing. If you had 5 resilience ( which you couldn't have with only 7 health, most you could have is 1 with that health pool..) and spent your 1 vitae you would only take 8 bashing....
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  • Vitalis
    replied to Mesmerize condition help
    I say that you can't hit a breaking point without actually doing the thing that would be breaking you. Murdering my husband and my children and slaughtering my dogs and cats is certainly most awful and I get a little sick thinking about doing it, but thinking about it isnt breaking me, doing it would. Again with the whole shoot yourself, there are lots of people who 'think" about suicide, but it's not a breaking point until they actually do it.

    If you want the person to stop fighting you, don't issue the command "Drop your gun", but instead issue the command, "Stop...
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  • I also wouldn't allow for a total loss of defense. I would just give the attacker a plus to hit the victim or perhaps a negative to hit the Nos....
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  • No, Unfortunately they can not. You could create an illusion of spots or a bag on someone's head, but they will quickly realize it's not real. at best you might be able to give them a negative for a turn, but the bag illusion doesn't last long enough to make it a lasting tilt. They are just quick flashes meant to unsettle/scare your victim. a Few seconds...

    "These illusions can only affect two
    senses each, and must be small — no larger than a small dog,
    and no louder than a shout. They only last for a turn or two at
    most, but they’re always unsettling.&qu
    ...
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  • Vitalis
    replied to Lobotomy and Dominate
    Which is why I said to do it WITH CONDITIONING... you can condition people to do a lot of fucked up things. See real life suicide bombers. People get conditioned over time to do and think in certain ways. There are tons of real life stories of kidnappers conditioning their victims into loving them and doing things for them and even hurting other people for them Just to make them happy... If you convince these minions that you ( the regnant ) is in danger, which they will be conditioned to believe. They would want to do everything to keep you safe. They are insanely in love with you.......
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  • Vitalis
    replied to Lobotomy and Dominate
    I dont think it's as complicated as you are making it out to sound. You have Bob, Joe and Sally ( and whatever else 7 names if you want to quickly have 10 minions ) You remember you also have dominate. You Dominate Bob. Feed me. You drink him 1 to.. dead if you wanted. Then you give Joe Sally and Whatever7 the blood. Next night. You dominate Joe ( which you now have a bonus to do because he is bloodbonded ) "feed Me" you take 1 to whatever and give it to the rest of them. Or you can do 1 for 1 each night. Nothing gained nothing lost. You take one from every minion and...
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  • Vitalis
    replied to Lobotomy and Dominate
    If you had tons of blood bound individuals, you would by default have a herd to feed from. You would have that many blood dolls willing and eager to feed you. If you were a Daeva with the Kiss of the Succubus, it would be even more of a reason that they would listen to you and feed you. They would need you like the air they breathe...
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  • Vitalis
    replied to Lobotomy and Dominate
    I still think Conditioning and Blood Bonding would all for that. There are humans today who are so devoted to their god or their beliefs who suicide bomb. I don't think it's out of the scope of conditioning with blood to make your antagonist the "god" in this scenario.

    Though, honestly. You can make your bad guy do whatever you need to have him do to make the story flow. Sometimes bad guys don't exactly fit in the RAW....
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  • Probably. Without a family tree to reference, I would say they are likely cousins....
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  • Disclaimer. I know very little of VTM Toreador. That said, I have several Daeva that own businesses in various cities in various games. Some of them are a little cliche, but I love them anyway.

    I had a Daeva who worked in a BDSM house/strip joint called No Restraint. The story teller started my character there, so obviously this was his ideal for Daeva businesses. He later left after the Primogen was killed. He started Circus of the Damned


    Circus of the Damned: This was again inspired by the book with the same title. This club put on circus like entertainment,...
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  • Vitalis
    replied to Lobotomy and Dominate
    I agree with Tsusasi. If you actually lobotomize someone they would lose a lot of higher functioning. You might dominate them, give them a command and they might not be able to understand it whatsoever because of the damage dome to their brain.

    If your goal is conditioned puppets with no free will. Use conditioning and Blood bond then these people will let you do whatever you want to them. You even get a bonus to use disciplines on Blood bonded people. Which would make them more susceptible to your commands and they would be more likely to protect you and go out of their way...
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