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  • Must have missed it there. Thanks.


    That is a) a terrible way to answer a "how do I deal with X" question and b) there are NPCs that have it and a ST needs to know how that affects the chronicle and c) there sometimes are situations outside the player's hands that force certain things on them....
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  • I totally agree with you, unfortunately V20 did attach stats to it and even gave a checklist for players how to get there. Which I completely ignore in my game, and I'll hit every player over the head that tries to game Golcanda....
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  • Where is that from? I don't remember reading that in CbN...
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  • double post sorry.
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  • Ah, did I mix up Caine and the Antes there? Quite possible, my bad then. Still I don't think an Antedeluvian and Golcanda vampire are the same power level...
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    replied to On V5 and V20
    Lore books can easily be adjusted to the older system though. I will certainly include elements of V5 in my V20 game, like the Second Inquisition will start rearing its head soon, for my players....
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  • I actually agree with you on that.
    There is a Vampire with MT in Chicago by Night and she has drained her own Childe the night she awoken, but since then seems to somehow survive, and Chicago vampires don't mysteriously vanish all the time.

    So I see it as something they regularly have to do, but its not their only source.

    Alright, on the other hand, it would be an easy thing for a Methusalah to embrace fresh vampires (or have one of her minions do it), have them feed on a human or two, and then just drain them completely. It would still leave a trail of dead bodies...
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  • If you're thinking in pure Dots, maybe. But I think the actual Antedeluvians are still more powerful by a long shot. For example they can simply create new Disciplines when they need it, I don't think someone on Golcanda can do that.

    Also pretty sure to achieve Golcanda your mindset has to be almost diametrically opposed to the Jyhad, so I don't think they'd take part in it afterwards again.

    And my personal head-canon is: An Antedeluvian cannot truly die unless it's at the hand of another Antedeluvian or something equally powerful. (all the "dead" ante's turn...
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  • Thank you all for your opinions and thoughts, and pointing out that V5 clarifies this issue. So I think I'll go with "Nope, unless the species is good at mimicing it"....
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  • [V20] Able to speak in Protean 4 Shape of the Beast?

    Can you speak while you turned yourself into a Wolf or Bat?

    It doesn't say you can, but it also doesn't say you can't. It allows you to use Dominate and Presence which generally require you to talk to people, and it says you can call upon the abilities of the animal form in addition to your own.
    It also doesn't mention that people will need Animalism to speak with you in this form.

    To me that seems like one would be able to speak.
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  • Thank you very much for that detailed description Possessed! Much learned from it and much appreciated!
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  • 14. Yes my game is a Vampire game, and the Giovanni player has befriended a Wraith and she's helping out sometimes with things like that. I take it from your comment that Skin- and Shadowland buildings aren't 1:1 mirrors of each other? So I might go the opposite direction and let the Skinlands architecture take precedence, since that's where our game takes place....
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    started a topic [V20] Witness of Death

    [V20] Witness of Death

    The first power in the Necromancy Sepulchre Path is "Witness of Death".

    It has a passage in its description, where I'm not sure how to interpret it:



    It's about that last, bolded sentence. I interpret it as just mechanically describing the effects of the Botch, while one of the players interprets it as the default state of the power, aka when it was a success. His reasoning was that the sentence about the Failure and Botch was finished, and this is now once again talking about the power in general.

    The thing is if I take out that sentence...
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  • Hey, I'm just reviving this thread of mine from a while ago, since a few new questions came up in the recent session of our game:

    14) It's about being incorporeal and walking through walls. Seems fairly straight forward, but what I understand is that most places exist as a reflection in the Shadowlands, and a Wraith can't pass through those. So if a wall or door exists in both, they couldn't just phase through? Is there anything they can do to get into the house then?
    15) It says doing that causes them to take 1 bashing damage. Is that damage soakable?

    Ok really...
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  • These are some good informations, thank you

    Here's a little background to my question: I have one Tremere PC in the coterie, and another player is thinking of making one as well (it's not entirely sure yet). In another game I was in, we had two Tremere and two non-Tremere too, and that caused a somewhat focus on the Chantry and intra-Tremere drama, which at least one of the players wasn't too ok with (he's also playing in my game).

    So I want to avoid that by somehow getting the other players also involved in that stuff somehow. First step to that would be they can actually...
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  • [V20] How welcome are visitors to the Chantry?

    This question is still for the V20 timeline, so before Carna's Rebellion and the nuking of Vienna etc, since that might change things.

    How welcoming are the Tremere to non-Tremere kindred visiting the Chantry? For the sake of argument, those kindred are in a Coterie with a Tremere in good standing, of said chantry (aka the player characters).

    Are they even allowed in?
    Only in special, guest-areas - kinda like Strauss did in Bloodlines, or only allowed to walk around with a chaperone?
    Would they dominate them to forget everything about it?
    Would the...
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