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  • According to the tales, they knew who Caine was when he arrived. Which is why they let him rule. So they had an understanding of the supernatural. The vampires openly ruled the people back then.

    Caine also had been wandering a very long time and encountered other civilizations, bringing various things with him to help Enoch prosper more (the wheel from Sumer, being a major technology).
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  • Eldagusto, Ubar was the original name of the First city before Caine renamed it to Enoch. The second city was never given a name.
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  • Because V:tM was designed to have a very ambiguous past, there isn't much in the way of supplements to show what vampire life was like pre-dark ages. This is much like the real world, where history past a certain point is purely speculation because of a lack of writing.

    Much of what we know is from stories passed down in the clans and from the Book of Nod supplement. And those can be taken with a grain of salt, even according to the actual authors.

    You're essentially free to do what you want with that far back in history.
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  • If the vampire is new to a territory and doesn't want to go to the local leader, then it should be very difficult to notice outside of Auspex or Animalism. Other than clan curses/attributes that scream a certain clan, they should be doing everything in their power to maintain the masquerade so humans don't even wise up to their existence.
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  • Kael03
    replied to Dominate and Generation
    Adding difficulty based on gen difference has potential for metagaming shenanigans. We've seen meths posing as higher gens to hide themselves (Helena being a prime example). Arikel is even rumored to be posing as a servant. If the player knows there is a 6 generation difference, theres potential that the character can suddenly know the difference without rituals.
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  • Kael03
    replied to Dominate and Generation
    Other way around. Lower generation means thicker blood, as the generation is how many steps removed from Caine a particular vampire is. A 13th generation cannot dominate a 10th generation, but it can dominate a 14th and higher generation.
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  • So we believe because... fuckload of Fortitude and the ability to rewrite reality....
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  • A fuckload of fortitude and the ability to rewrite reality with an illusion of your choice?...
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  • Kael03
    replied to Tzimisce and Kupala
    In this world Kupala is a God. In the world of darkness he is a demon.

    The reason they get away with dealing with a demon is the elders keep the neonates in the dark. So long as the vaulderie continues to work, the young Sabbat members tend to not live long enough or care enough to ask many questions....
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  • It took a few decades to come up with the potion that turned them into vampires. They discovered the failing magicks before the end of the first millennium and weren't turned until 1022. That's after getting at least the Tzimisce wanting blood with the experiments to make said potion. I wouldn't call that "without too much difficulty". Not to mention as soon as they woke up undead, most of the original group wanted Goratrix dead at that moment.

    Even with the destruction of the Pyramid, this new group wouldn't be welcomed with open arms. They would have to deal with the same...
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  • It took a lot of work, some blind luck, and pissing off multiple clans for the Tremere to fall into vampirism. And when it was found to have happened they had a bullseye on their heads from the other houses.

    Unless the new house had been following the Tremere's research, it would be hard to explain another group of mages sacrificing their power. Not to mention they might just be destroyed on sight by the Tremere for trying to move into their territory among the clans.
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