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  • Active? Relatively rare. Most of the awake 4th gens have been Beckoned. The rest are in long term torpor either from injury or age (the older the vampire the longer their stints in torpor become, either due to a lack of humanity or intentional to stave off boredom).
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  • First, most interpretations don't refer to any diablerie happening. Just that the 3rd rose up and "destroyed" them. No soul devouring is necessary for final death.

    Second, Enoch appears in the BJD, so he clearly wasn't diablerized.

    Third, isn't there an ancient vampire that seemingly has the vitae of the clans descended from Irad?

    Fourth, there is a statue in underworld Enoch(?) that is supposedly the body of Zillah.

    So the second generation weren't necessarily diablerized. Just pulled down from their thrones and "laid low&quo...
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  • Kael03
    replied to The Premascines
    It's not that they gave up their worldly ambitions, they just took the smarter elder path of "do it from the shadows". The Premascines are watched from the side because they are basically Cappadocians with the Giovanni name. They have the old school clan curse and access to Mortis naturally. Younger Giovanni don't trust that.
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  • Kael03
    replied to Defeating a Lasombra 1v1?
    No vampire worth their salt would go 1v1 against anyone willingly. They would have back up and plans and back up plans and planned back up and, hopefully, not have the attack in question linked back to them.
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    replied to 2nd/3rd gens meths/elders?
    Basically any clout they will have is due to experience. The reason 3rd and lower generations are walking plot devices is a combination of the weakening of blood and experience. Anyone embraced after the flood won't have as much experience to be the feared blood gods of old.

    To put it in perspective, Montano and Gratiano are both 4th gens, but embraced millennia apart. Montano has abilities that Gratiano doesn't because he's been around longer.

    The weakening of the blood was laid down onto the 3rd generation's progeny. Anyone embraced by Caine or his childer shouldn't...
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  • Kael03
    replied to True Brujah
    Ilyes, the original Brujah Antediluvian, popped back into the time stream, heard about the True Brujah claims, and basically said "the fuck you're descended from me. I only embraced Troile and even that was a mistake."

    The Gehenna book isn't fully canon, though....
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