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  • The Wizard of Oz
    replied to War gods descendent Question
    I agree with these guys. Having seen it in action, I'd consider it a good charm, definitely, but not overpowered.
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  • The Wizard of Oz
    replied to Military Might in Creation
    You could, but you can only summon one demon a day, so you'd be better of Tiger Warrior Training large numbers of mortals.
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  • The Wizard of Oz
    replied to A gap in Exalted Lore
    I also don't think the Jade Prison was likely just sitting at the bottom of the sea; more likely it was hidden in a chamber time-phased out of reality inside an ancient temple enchanted to be only found by those who already know where it is, under a volcano, under the sea. Or something.

    Not something they'd leave just lying around for people to stumble across.

    Also, as the Jade Prison was magic, it didn't need to be near the Solars when they died (in prior editions, the exaltations were sucked out of Lytek's cabinet, but I'm not sure that this is what they'll go with...
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  • The Wizard of Oz
    replied to So many Lunars 400 LUNARS
    I agree. Perfected Hybrid Interaction was always a knack that I felt was only in-theme for Chimerae anyway.
    My casteless Lunar turned into a giant stone-skinned, clawed monster (like a gargoyle but without wings). Cool, but is that in theme for regular Lunars? I don't think so....
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  • The Wizard of Oz
    replied to So many Lunars 400 LUNARS
    Well, being a Chimerae isn't something you start out as like being a tyrant-lizard totem Lunar is; it's something you become.
    Presumably, in 3rd ed, by taking the "You are now a Chimerae" charm.

    Essentially, it's not a seperate choice to the charm cascade; it is the charm cascade (I'm guessing/suggesting). So, it's not so different from taking your sorcerous initiation and spells, say. It's just another option. One that is cosmetically (and thematically) distinct, but not mechanically (I mean, more than any other charm tree).

    Which, I realise may now sound...
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  • The Wizard of Oz
    replied to So many Lunars 400 LUNARS
    What I mean is, I'm quite happy to have a Lunar that has some drastically altered powers, and I'm quite happy for those to require more than just Strength 4, Essence 2.
    I enjoyed playing a casteless Lunar with plenty of permanent (well, semi-permanent after a bit of wyld-questing and/or my special combo) bizarre mutations a lot in 2nd ed. I don't want to be told "this Chimerae stuff seems a bit too radically odd, a bit too drastic, maybe a bit harmful to the character, so, you can't take it." Sometimes I got that impression with people talking about 2nd ed; "oh, being a Chimarae...
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  • The Wizard of Oz
    replied to Military Might in Creation
    I don't think Lookshy could muster 10 legions*. It is just a city state, after all. A city state with loads of Dragonblood, and a rather militarised city-state, but it's still one city and a large area of villages and small towns.

    *Also, your estimate seems to have Legions as 10,000 men. Realm Legions are 5000 men plus 1-2000 auxiliaries, IIRC.

    More generally, my go-to system is to find a historical empire (preferably from about 1AD-ish, not 1500-ish, but that's not always possible) of similar size and infrastructure to the one in question, then look up how many soldiers...
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  • The Wizard of Oz
    replied to So many Lunars 400 LUNARS
    It is more drastic, yes? I don't really see that as a problem. I mean, if it was like 30 charms, sure, but surely it's okay to have 4 or 5 charms that require something more drastic than attribute and ability mins.
    Of course, I don't see it as drastic, so much as radical. And radical is cool....
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  • The Wizard of Oz
    replied to Ask a question, get an answer
    You still get initiative.
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  • The Wizard of Oz
    replied to The Empress : Who Was She?
    Nah, it was 10 Lunars. They swapped around when they got bored.
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  • I haven't got the pdf myself (I want to wait until they're all in one book), so take that into account; I'm just replying to what you guys are saying.

    But frankly, running a game that reached Essence 5, I found the stuff in the antagonist section virtually useless because of how low-powered it was. The only stat lines I actually found of any real use were Ahlat and the second-circle demons, and I'm sure the PCs could still have curp-stomped Ahlat if he hadn't caught them when there was only 3 of them and he had 100 war-gods with him, and they chickened out because he scared them with...
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  • The Wizard of Oz
    replied to Exalted Priesthood
    This question made me think of Dee, from Rat Queens:


    If your family worships demons... well, you might decide that it's really silly. But still do some of the practices, because it's your family? Not to mention that you might find out later that you absolutely have to worship the demon, in order to keep it quiescient....
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  • The Wizard of Oz
    replied to So many Lunars 400 LUNARS
    Thanks, I actually missed that.

    That's basically exactly what I'd like to see. My Lunar PC retired (because he got amnesia from his rampant mutating-without-tattoos, and so was sent off to the Silver Pact to learn about being a Lunar... which as an Essence 4, 700xp Lunar he probably should have a long time ago, but who was going to make him? He had stuff to do), but when the Lunar book comes out I might bring him back, and those are exactly the sort of charms I'd like to see.


    I wondered if, since there are a whole bunch of new Exalt types being planned, if one...
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  • That's the impression I got as well.

    It could be argued that it's contradictory, but I think it's the sort of nuanced and complicated view that real people have of historical events....
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  • Okay, one thing I always think is this:

    The Pact probably has no official line on Solars. They probably don't have a general training policy of telling Lunars to work with Solars, or fight them, or whatever.

    Because they've spent 1500 years living in a world with 400 Lunars and about 10 Solars. They're pretty irrelevant. The main purpose of Solars in Lunar historiography, is to prove how awful the Realm and its Sidereal masters are, for brutally massacring the Solars.
    Most Lunars never expected the Solars to return. They're used to a world without Solars.
    ...
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  • The Wizard of Oz
    replied to Exalted Priesthood
    One of my players had a Solar who was part of a demon cult. But the Ebon Prince Clad in Savage Crimson didn't know they were demons. To him, they were just the guys his monastery worshipped. Not demonic at all.
    Other PCs were rather suspicious by the way he was followed around by a man made of living shadow with burning eyes who was bound to the tattoos on the Ebon Prince's head (seemed an awful lot like a demon of the Ebon Dragon). Also, the Ebon Prince's love of eating gods, and insistence that the Gods were rubbish and stole the world from the Old Masters, sounded a lot like some kind...
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  • It makes me think of it perhaps achieving some sort of metamorphosis in the future to become a much more powerful creature.
    But anyway, young, certainly. Not necessarily born very recently though.

    It might well have a million year life-cycle after all!...
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  • Surely that depends on the behemoth. Their whole thing is that they have little in common....
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  • I just assumed it was capped at 5.


    I also ran that you can only use TWT on a)some kind of discrete unit, b)something you can feasibly train (so they'd need to be training together under your direction), and c)max of one mass combat unit, ie Size 5, ie 1000 soldiers (am I remembering right that Size 5 is 1000? Anyway, it's however much Size 5 is).

    This worked fine. The master general has trained several thousand troops so far.
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  • The Wizard of Oz
    replied to So many Lunars 400 LUNARS
    Is it break their caste? Or is it, as in 1st ed, mucking about with their totem? Changing their totem, which causes the new one to be warped?
    I'm not sure they've given a lot of detail.

    Because that's what I'm hoping for. I had a Lunar character with a lot of self-hate issues, and he was obsessed with changing himself. Sacrificed his own silver tattoos for sorcery, picked up (and later got rid of) various mutations. He was thinking about changing his totem. I'm hoping that's something you can do.
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