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  • I don't remember it anywhere, but it's possible.
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  • The Wizard of Oz
    replied to Ask the Devs
    I have some questions about the Underworld.
    The Core describes it as a sea full of islands.
    So does that mean that there's no longer a giant southern desert, Eastern forest, blessed Isle equivalent, etc, just loads of small islands?
    Are these still elementally-aspected? For example, mostly forested islands in the east, desert islands in the south, etc?
    How reflective are they of what's in the real world generally? Are they more like the multiple afterlife islands in old Wraith's Far Shores (IIRC)?
    Are Shadowlands all on islands, and do these islands stretch far...
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  • The Wizard of Oz
    replied to Ask the Devs
    Wait, specialties don't count for static values? Is that right? So my Integrity speciality is basically useless?...
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  • The Wizard of Oz
    replied to Canon Usurpation Surviving Solars
    Maybe it was, and the Realm crushed them 20 years later.
    It's probably worth mentioning that Yurgen didn't beat the Tepet legions by himself. He got lucky: out of the 20-ish Solars in the whole world, 2 exalted amongst the Icewalkers. They joined each other, started building their power far from the Realm, and then when the other Solars returned recruited 3 of them (though one died fighting the Tepets).
    That's not something likely to happen shortly after the GC, it'd be probably just 1 Solar.

    Frankly, compared to 400 Lunars, pretty irrelevant.

    Crumplepunch...
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    Last edited by The Wizard of Oz; 08-16-2018, 02:46 PM.

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  • Golden Hero: The darkest night requires the brightest heroes! In his mighy golden warstrider Godspeed Vanguard, the heroic northern Shining One known as Golden Hero, once just a humble slave-smith, has sworn to defeat the Realm that brutally murdered his fiancĂ©e! He fights for justice, truth, and the New Day!
    (Warning: Night Castes may be significantly less heroic than they first appear)
    Skills: Crafting, Athletics, stabbing demons, stealth

    Brother Alazar: When the new Abbott of the Black Monastery of Leng decided to open the forbidden vaults of that pre-human structure,...
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  • The Wizard of Oz
    replied to Ask a question, get an answer
    Ah, that makes more sense, thanks.

    So, presumably the floor of the White Sea has a whole bunch of ruined First Age stuff. Which I vaguely remember CoCD: The North talking about, I think there were tribes that went diving for artefacts....
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  • Yes... but tbh, Lunars are probably the main obstacle on the way of Fae raiders, if only because they're closer.


    Yeah, as I said, you can't blame Lookshy for the Realm's invasions when they're literally fighting those invasions....
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  • The Wizard of Oz
    replied to Ask a question, get an answer
    So, I kind of half-remember a couple of things about the northern sea (the White Sea? Is that it?).
    1) It was once inhabited a giant tentacle Primordial, and either it was made to drown them, or it was linked to the sea to kill it with salt water? I don't really remember.
    2)In the First Age, the Solars dammed it off, and drained it to make farmland, but in the Usurpation a Solar smashed the dam and drowned it all? Is that right?
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  • Well, if the people are miserable even when ruled by a social-fu Solar, then they must be a really bad ruler.
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  • I thought that, but someone on this forum pointed out to me that in order to create animals, plants, land, metal, etc, you have to understand their properties, and that's Lore.

    I agree with you about Injury-Forcing Discipline though. (It used to be an Abyssal Lore charm actually, IIRC)
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  • Well I think that whether the people are happy is a pretty important point (probably one of the most important points).
    But also the Huns... well, notice they're no longer here? They conquered for a while, and then lost to the locals because they'd expended too much strength fighting. Most tribal steppe invasions actually only last a few generations at most.
    As you said, as long as its leader lives, and it's mostly undefeated. But eventually, you get defeated and the leader dies.

    Constant invasion and plundering actually isn't what most Empires do. First they invade and...
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    Last edited by The Wizard of Oz; 08-14-2018, 05:03 PM.

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  • Can't quote well on my phone.

    Ghosthead, yeah that was my basic point, that authoritarianism isn't necessarily based on the Realm. Though I'm not sure the legacy of Solar God-Kings is likely to be nearly as big an influence as the more diffuse Shogunate, purely due to time and propaganda. It's an interesting point though.
    One could argue that the Shogunate's power structure was a response to the Solar Deliberative anyway.

    Isator, I can definitely see that kind of thing.
    In my own game, Havesh led a Lunar-backed revolt by the Casteless, and became King of a...
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  • That's fair enough....
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  • The Wizard of Oz
    replied to On What Fire Has Wrought
    I think it's not Solar combat charms per-se, so much as combat supernals.

    I think most chargen Solars, even with a combat stat at 5, would lose to most Hearths, because Essence 1 combat charms are not nearly enough to take out 5 Dragonblood.

    I'm actually not convinced a chargen Dawn does have the edge against 5 chargen Dragonblood, because... well, there's 5 of them. Between them, they've got far more attacks, health levels, etc. But I admit that a chargen Dawn can be a terrifying combat encounter, due to their Essence 3 or 4 combat charms (technically 5, but I doubt...
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  • Oh yes, definitely

    Oh, I've just thought of Words-As-Workshop. It's a fine concept, but... it basically doesn't have any rules. You might a bonus. A mechanical bonus. Of... who knows how much?...
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  • Being good isn't the only qualification for being good at running a country. Administrative skill, charisma, the ability to resist bad influences, these are all important.

    But of course, being good is pretty important.

    I would assume, on average, Solars will be slightly better rulers than Dragonblood, because they are more skilled bureucrats, and better at socially influencing large groups of people.
    But that in no way proves any particular Solar is any better than any particular Dragonblood.

    And this is before we look at particular castes and note...
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  • I find it much easier to grok with the short descriptions, tbh.
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  • The Wizard of Oz
    replied to 2e: Biggest problems fix ?
    Very, very important. An Abyssal making a magical flurry of 3-5 attacks with a Grand Goremaul is not something that can be dealt without a paranoia-suite; making the perfect defences cost more isn't really the solution (and honestly, that's one charm plus excellency, so your solution I'm afraid doesn't stop that either, though I can see where you're coming from).
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  • The Dragonblood book reached 2nd draft in July 2017, and the kickstarter (with the raw text released to backers) was in March 2018.

    So maybe a similar timeframe.

    However, I suspect they won't want to do the Lunar Kickstarter at the same time as they release the Dragonblood book, I expect they'll want to stagger them a bit. But I'm no expert in driving RPG sales.
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  • The Wizard of Oz
    replied to Ask a question, get an answer
    Ah, so it took from July to March. Thanks.
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