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[Primordial newcomer]

thanks for the link man, and for dealing with my dumb questions

[Primordial newcomer]

so it's kinda like giving a specialty? like a troll would only need 3 successes on social rolls like manipulation and subterfuge while a gargantuan would have good strength?

[Primordial newcomer]

that's very good to hear. while I doubt all kiths will be getting an official update, it's nice to hear they care about allowing the resources to update ones we want to

Master Aquatosic what do you mean by standardize exactly

[Primordial newcomer]

don't know if it's been answered already, but will kiths still be usable? I really want my first try at changeling to be with a ogre troll

[Primordial newcomer]

ahh I understand, thanks Satchel!

[Primordial newcomer]

I don't know if it's explicitly explained how the thicker than water social ability works lore wise? is it basically a supernatural aura Beast have?

[Primordial newcomer]

thank you very much good sir

[Primordial newcomer]

Just wondering, on the Argentum splat page in the corebook, is the promethean in in a tammuz or unfleshed?

[Primordial newcomer]

I would leave it up to the players. But if you want, you could give them an exploit so that when they use one you can not only show the benefits but also the detriments (ie compromise)

[Primordial newcomer]

Wherever Jose Garcia is, i thank him for making such a stubborn, grumpy, vitriol stealing promethean that AINT a centimani

[Primordial newcomer]

I see whatcha did there.

@Lelial good. I always thought It was literally pointless to have the option for the new dawn otherwise...

[Primordial newcomer]

Then what's playing an exemptore

[Primordial newcomer]

I agree 100%.

So I just read about the remnant known as Utley. Who made that Hollow because I fucking love the bastard...

[Primordial newcomer]

There are the idigram sleeping in the earth. No idea if they only awakened wheb the idigram from the moon appeared though

[Primordial newcomer]

It's sort of an anti principle, it wants you not to become a centimani, but to keep your pilgrimage going for as long as possible in stagnation, hoping you will lose hope. Has a ton of possible origins and appears as if it's helpful, when in reality it's just keeping you from advancing

[Primordial newcomer]

Ahh ok, my bad. As to my knowledge, isn't there a Japanese variant, with oni instead of demons, tying into the idea it's a hodge podge of demonic ancestry?

[Primordial newcomer]

Really? Also your 2 cents were pretty good

As for bleeding, I remember what the vanishes said about the abyss and the inferno. "At least abyss just wants to destroy the world, the inferno wants to bleed it"...

[Primordial newcomer]

So they do understand the difference, but they are still close enough to be considered demons, I think I understand. Would a fractal be welcomed into the lucifuge

[Primordial newcomer]

One thing I could not find in Mortal Remains. Does the lucifuge not know the diff between their own demons and the unchained? The book makes it sounds like they think they are one and the same

[Primordial newcomer]

That is a horrid thing to imagine...