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  • The Hedge is up next ? Cool, its surreal weirdness is one of my favorite things in Changeling.

    I might be thinking of 1ed, but weren't mages in the Hedge liable to have their Wisdom flayed by the Thorns until they become Unmade at 0 ? Maybe Shard leading the way could allow them to dodge that peril (or some homebrewing).

    I wonder why no one ever tried to make a Fate & Life Legacy to allow safe investigation of the Hedge, it would be such a Mysterium thing to do.

    Looking forward to the next one, thanks again for sharing Rhea's adventures.
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  • Its one of those things no one has managed to pull off, but a lot of lore suggesting it. Most of it comes from the Tremere, so your mileage might vary (depending on what the ST wants to go with).

    I think this historical expression fits the question well: Here Be Dragons
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  • It requires both Gnosis and Arcana. If your character is creating it themselves, it requires Gnosis 3 and Legacy Arcanum 2. If its an already established Legacy setting wise, it requires Gnosis 2 and Arcanum 2.

    Your character will require the same main/optional Arcanum rating as the Attainment number (plus the needed Gnosis, which varies based on the Attainment), 1 dot for 1st, 4 for 4th and so on.

    To help flesh out the Legacy, you need to come up with their habits. Why did they choose to specialize like this ? How do they pass these teachings down? How are they initiated...
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  • Creating a soul requires mastery of all 5 subtle Arcana.

    But psychic genesis can create a Sleepwalker goetia, which is only relevant for yantras, as goetia suffer no Quiescence.

    But if you meant your golem army, you could just bind an emphemeral entity to it. Moros are very well equipped for this. They can make the item an Anchor. Or they can bind or persuade the ghost to do it. Which means not only making golems with a huge variety of gadgets, but advanced "AI" for turrets, security systems, cars (the MIB one has nothing on a dedicated Moros), smartphones...
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  • Technically yes, but its the harder way. Active Mind Sight allows you to detect at a glance if something is a thinking being, as well as if someone is asleep, comatose, awake, meditating or astral projecting. You are also aware when anyone you can perceive spends or gains Willpower.

    If Mind is your Ruling Arcana, entering it is a reflexive action, otherwise its instant. Regardless of that, it requires no dice rolls and provides a much more comprehensive analysis than a Knowing spell....
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  • Yantras that are worth a +2 normally come with a downside outside of Legacies, especially sacraments, +2 for a perfect mundane sacrifice, +3 for one you had to procure them from the supernatural.

    Looking at both the Eleventh Question writeup and the Even More Legacies thread, the pattern I saw was:

    * +1 from a generally useful environment (such as a field of maize for the Katsinam Suukya), +2 if the mage had to take some pains to prepare it (Invisible Runes covers that for this case).

    * +1 from a generally useful tool (using drugs to stay focused for the...
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  • Yes, but there are some limitations:

    - It can only do simple actions, because its "field" is simple labor, fighting and simple tasks. To make them more powerful, you need to either bind an emphemeral entity or create a mind wholesale with Mind 5
    - It has no Defense but has Durability based on its makeup and Structure of Durability + Size, looking at the preview on perfected metals might be very interesting for your goals

    When the spell ends, you lose the merits and Sanctity of Merits does not apply, so its all good. However, the Permanence attainment means...
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  • KaiserAfini
    replied to What's YOUR custom Legacy?
    The Agathos Kai Sophos

    I may have been a bit too verbose on the lore side of it

    Feedback is very much appreciated. Do the yantras make sense ? Do the attainments look useful ? Was the theme presented in a cohesive manner ?

    I wanted to make them into enlightened strategists. At the time I was reading more about Plato and the philosophies derived from his teachings, in order to get a stronger grasp on the inspirations for Mage. Stoicism seemed to resonate with the Arrows, especially when Marcus Aurelius stood out as both a philosopher king and great strategist.
    ...
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  • The spirit itself is a definite yes. But you can cast it on the ephemera on this side of the Gauntlet, which are like spirit algae, alive but not terribly bright. Its what Coaxing The Spirits does, it targets either a spirit or its physical representation and forces it to do an instant action. So you can turn the car on, you can also tell a pile of rocks to cause an avalanche, a safe to unlock, a door to close or a computer to let you login as admin. Anything that is not human is within its purview, including animals. All that without any need to cross the Gauntlet, it gives freshly Awakened Thrysus...
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  • KaiserAfini
    replied to Nightwatch Cult
    That is much clearer, thank you.

    Since the Lighthouse use Stealing Fire as part of the initiation, that gave the impression they had the final say on how new initiates were rebuilt. Since the source of the breakdown was via an external effect rather than a personal choice to unravel one's identity, it also suggested that the rebuilding could also be under external directives, and such would be how they differentiate themselves from the original RCB. The second explanation makes it a lot easier to understand, but I thought it could be helpful to explain how I reached that conclus...
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  • KaiserAfini
    replied to Nightwatch Cult
    I am a bit confused, so the cult seems to be:

    1- An order of mutually loyal fanatics that use the rejection of their identities as a means to become hyper achievers, which then realize whatever goals they have, whilst simultaneously providing a support neywork to the other members.

    2- A hunter cell that aids those wounded by the supernatural, striving for excellence despite these traumas

    3- A multi layered conspiracy with a supernatural core, which inflicts supernatural damage as part of the initiation. This is done by using Proximi lineages with Stealing...
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  • Sounds good. So now lets do a checklist of the next steps:
    - Expanding on the uses of the Invisible Runes
    - Naming the Legacy
    - Defining yantras beyond the marked area
    - Fleshing out its organization. How do they communicate? What happens when an area is in dispute over who claims it ? How is the mentor-student bond normally ? What traditions, if any, do they observe ?
    - Figuring out Oblations
    - Writing the Legacy's history
    - Creating a general profile of the students they typically accept
    - Setting the Legacy skills

    The attainments...
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  • Very nice, the Eternal Dark is a cool new Mystery to explore and the use of the attainments could draw the unwary. I really like the irony that these sentinels of the end become ever more afraid of their own one as they advance down the path.

    Another possibility is that the Eternal Dark is a Lower Depth lacking all Arcana except Death. The Time Liches never noticed they scried into a Time Wound.
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  • So lets review:

    1st Attainment: Mix of Outward and Inward Eye with Sacred Geometry for Space, mark an area with Prime
    2nd Attainment: PMS on any anything within the marked area for Space, Pierce Deception within the area with Prime
    3rd Attainment: ??
    4th Attainment : Nimbus Spreading now marks the area with Strong connection for Space, Geomancy on the area for Prime
    5th Attainment: Instant Co-Location for Space, Better Supernal Summoning within the area for Prime

    So you can find a good area, mark it as yours, make sure no magic or deception happens...
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  • KaiserAfini
    replied to Abyssal Neighbors
    Its an Abyssal Real Invisible that is yet to be born. It "eats" people by sending them to a new phase of reality, which only exists in the Fallen as sound. In the realm itself, sounds in our world correspond to objects in it, sound from the Fallen side can also be used to create living and non-living things everywhere this growing "Real Invisible" overlaps with the Fallen. Inside the phase, the Fallen is only perceived as smells.

    Basically this: https://lovecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Gulf_of_S%27glhuo

    For the inhabitants, you can adapt the Gree: http:/...
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  • The same link also shows why they won't affect almost anything unless you have the Potent Nimbus merit. But I imagine a Ruling of Prime could force it to always be "on" during spellcasting, a Weaving could change the effects and either a Perfecing of Prime or Forge Destiny could grant or increase the Potent Nimbus merit (and probably also cover Potent Resonance as well).
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  • That sounds more like a Prime version of Oaths Fulfilled, but I can also see how the Space version can be justified via a strong sensitivity to that connection. Perhaps you could add a clause saying that with some degree of Fate you can also place specific triggers. For example, a mage crosses the area without taking your pre-approved routes. Or a werewolf pack that agreed not to hunt in your area enters without checking with you. It makes sense if the master of an area has a disturbingly quick awareness of anything that happens within it.
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  • This is one fascinating Legacy, as they progress, the mage is further condemned to wander the Earth. After much loss and when they hit low Wisdom, I could see them researching magic to reproduce places that made them feel at home......cool, I just realized its the thematic antithesis of the House of Fire & Stone.

    Couldn't the drawbacks be countered entirely by using a Making spell on a random crowd of people they "bump" into ?

    For the first Attainment, the spirit of the idea implies it needs to be a sympathy to a sentient being, but its not specified. Otherwise...
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  • KaiserAfini
    replied to Inter Order Conflict
    Interesting, I have yet to read that one. Cool, will take a look.
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  • KaiserAfini
    replied to Inter Order Conflict
    Its just my theory for why he acts like a Camarilla Prince....
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