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  • blackshade
    replied to More Female Antediluvians
    Where does Troiles embrace date from the wiki come from? it says 3000 bc. Maybe it's wrong but that woud make her the youngest ante after Augustus and Tremere.

    Set's embrace date and even generation is reallly up for debate. Some consider him a fourth gen that ate his way to third but he might aswell be the first vampire. Caine and Abel's story in the bible is based on the egyptian story of Set and Osiris.

    Also good to keep in mind, he is considered to be one of the most powerful antediluvians. So his embrace date of 5000 bc is a bit suspect. Unless he got juiced up...
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  • blackshade
    started a topic Humanity in Antediluvians

    Humanity in Antediluvians

    Do you guys think it's possible for a 10,000 year old vampire to still have some humanity left in them? Are all antes unredeemable monsters or is some good left in some of them?

    I am sure most of them (if not all of them) would be alien to us in their thinking or morality but i still wonder which antes could be considered to be somewhat humane? Maybe a sense of honor or a certain code they may follow? Perhaps a person they care about despite all their cruelty?

    I am basically looking for any redeeming qualities that binds them to humanity and shows they are not completete...
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  • blackshade
    replied to More Female Antediluvians
    Strength in numbers. A pack of wolves will bring down a lion. Element of surprise probably played a role and the second generation were most likely a few thousands years old when they were destroyed. Powerful but not the blood gods the third gens became after 10,000 years of existence.

    Then there is the theory that the second gen and third gen were equal in potential untill Caine cursed the third generation after their rebellion and started the whole weakening of the blood thing. So they might have been equal in potential of the blood....
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  • blackshade
    replied to More Female Antediluvians
    Caine was (and probably still is) a self serving bastard. Not that different from his grandchildren.
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  • blackshade
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    I am sure she was. But the reason of her embrace may have not been about her talents but about Caine's infatuation of her....
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  • blackshade
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    Sure maybe ''the Wise" is just propaganda on his part. But my point stands, he was most likely a competent man. If only because he survived into the modern nights (opinions may differ on his survival). But i dont think you can say they were idiots because they embraced the monsters of the third generation. Most likely there weren't monsters as humans but turned into one after some time. Age corrupts everything. It doesnt matter how good you are, if you live long enough, you will see yourself become a monster. Cliche but true....
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  • blackshade
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    Well the antes seem to be the best that society had to offer. Or so the legend goes. No telling how much of it is true. The second generation are less known for their prowess as mortals.

    Enoch may have been the actual son of Caine and Irad the son of Enoch (or Caine). It's possible they kept it in the familly.

    Regardless of the reason of the embrace, Enoch atleast seemed to have been a competent man or became one after his embrace. His epitath was ''the Wise'' afterall. Then there is the tidbit about the tablet of destiny. it was thought to be a chronicle of blood powers,...
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  • blackshade
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    I cant see Lasombra or Zapathasura as female at all. Both are clearly male in my mind. Tzimisce seems to be born male aswell. But given that he is a master of the flesh, i am sure he has looked like a women at some point throughout history.
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  • Don't know the answer to your question but i am glad they rebalanced it. Shooting lightning and fireballs from your hands never made sense to me. Seemed more like powers that a mutant from the x-men would use then a vampire. I like my vampires more grounded in reality.

    Also why would blood sorcery give you acces to those powers? A bit odd if you ask me.
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