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  • Well now you have me curious. What is your cannon explanation?...
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  • yeah forgot about that. This atleast tells us that he is out there somewhere....
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  • He cursed them and all that. But that mythical story is just in the beginning of the story. He has been absent throughout the rest of it. Some of the ante's have been active as recent as the 15th century. i don't think their existence can be denied. Sure in your story it can but if you follow the metaplot they are real. Can you really say the same about Caine? Maybe you can, afterall he was there in the beginning but it just strikes me as odd that there is no mention of him anywhere after the fall of the first city....
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  • A man after my heart. Like you i retain a soft spot for Saulot and Haqim. Never liked Tzimisce that much but somehow i liked Lasombra eventhough they are kinda similair....
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  • blackshade
    started a topic We need to talk about Caine

    We need to talk about Caine

    So what explanation do you guys have for Caine being absent throughout pretty much the entire vampire history? It's like he never existed in the first place. Most of the ante's you can see their footsteps in history. They made their marks. Caine not so much. I find it hard to believe that he has just been quietly lurking in the shadows for the past 10,000 years. If he ever existed, he probably died a long time ago....
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  • Saulot then...
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  • Totally forgot about Tubal-Cain. So there might be a lasombra methuselah older then Montano afterall....
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  • Most of them are interesting but of the ones you mentionend, i am the most fascinated by [Lasombra]. Mainly because of what happend (or didn't happen) during the assault on his castle. The mysteries surounding that night and whether or not he was actually diablrized is very interesting. He is also in my mind the most evil ante. Even someone like Tzimisce still cared about one of his childer. [Lasombra] on the other hand probably doesnt have a shred of kindness left in him....
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  • One might argue Caine isn't above them in potential. He only stood above them in those times because of age and experience. The antes are probably just as powerful these days. Perhaps they are even more powerful because some of them have developed discliplines of their own that Cain probably doesnt have access to. I can't for instance imagine Caine using vicissitude.

    There is also the line in v5 that Cain was driven out of the city during the rebellion that killed the second generation. So he might have been present in the city but wasn't strong enough to stop his grandchildren even...
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  • well yeah he forced someone to make him a vampire, thus stole the embrace. But its not exactly the same situation as tremere or Haqim....
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  • blackshade
    started a topic Most interesting Antediluvian

    Most interesting Antediluvian

    Who do think is the most interesting? Which clan founder fascinates you the most?

    Haqim is my choice. Most badass antediluvian. Love the Web of Knives origin story. It could also make for an interesting premise He could be Caine's greatest failure, his eternal rival, the torn in his side. The one that butchered his first children and stole his blood and has been hunting him and the rest of his kin throughout the ages.

    He also has a link with the baali through Ur-Shulgi and might have a interesting connection with the other great badass, Saulot. Both were actively involved...
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  • Interesting way of interpreting bastard of Caine. i believe Vlad Tepes also stole the embrace and the forces of destiny are supposedly at work around him. But Haqim makes the most sense to me if we go by your interpretation. He is old and powerful enough to warrant the title ''Dark Father'' and his clan are a bloodthirsty bunch that would glady sacrifice a shit ton of people or vampires to feed him if he wakes up from his torpor....
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  • Most of these fall under the category fate unknown. Could be alive or could be dead. But Sha'hiri caught my eye in your list. Didn't he commit ritual suicide by Jamal's hand?...
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  • You are like a living encyclopedia of WOD. Just something i have noticed about your posts lol. Seems like a powerful ability but still strange that a relatively young vampire defeated a vampire that should be Ur- Shulgi level in single combat....
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  • blackshade
    replied to Bloodlines 2 Announced.
    Paradox is just the publisher not the developer unlike the games you mentioned. Hardsuit labs makes the game and they have a shady track record....
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  • Here i was thinking lazarus was as old as dirt. didn't he defeat 9000 year old caias coine in single combat? How did that happen?...
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  • blackshade
    replied to Bloodlines 2 Announced.
    That's a understatement. Some of the worst combat i have ever seen. Anybody thinking they are going to fix this before launch is fooling themselves. Can't believe people are buying into 'this is pre alpha gameplay' marketing bullshit.

    Will the end result be better then what we have seen so far? ofcourse, but not by enough to make it any good. We are 6 months from release. We have all seen this many times in the past. If the game looks mediocre this close to release, it will be mediocre by release. This game won't be the exception.

    I am sure vtm hardcore fans will enjoy...
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  • blackshade
    replied to Bloodlines 2 Announced.
    So are okay with a 2020 game having the same shitty animations and combat as a 2004 game?...
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  • blackshade
    replied to Bloodlines 2 Announced.
    I think people who can't respect other people's opinion are a big part of what's wrong with society today nevermind any industry.

    Did i even mention graphics? What has graphics to do with anything i said? i said bad combat and animations.But now that you have mentioned it, yeah the graphics aren't that great either....
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  • blackshade
    replied to Bloodlines 2 Announced.
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