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  • Ahh my mistake
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  • It’s always important to remember that Columbia literally started as a propaganda piece to justify Manifest Destiny, the idea that caused so many of USA’s more horrible crimes against Native peoples. Afterwards? She was basically nonexistent, there are plenty of other figures to use as divine patrons of America
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  • Magicjohnny
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    I remember on the Discord server that Neal said it’s supposed to mean you get a free extra Boon, but don’t quote me on that
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  • Magicjohnny
    started a topic Companion out to public!

    Companion out to public!

    The Scion 2e Companion: Mysteries of The World is out on Drivethru. It’s super good I especially recommend reading the Yazata section!
    Link to store page:https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product...tion-Companion
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  • Magicjohnny
    replied to Scion x WtA: Totem Spirit Pantheon
    When has anyone been falsely flagged?
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  • Magicjohnny
    replied to Scion x WtA: Totem Spirit Pantheon
    Also it should be noted that the Manitou pantheon was written with the help of members of the Algonquin people, and the writer is himself a Native, Lakota specifically and friends with members of the Algonquin who he called upon to help with the project. So it’s not really disrespectful, because it was made with the help and assistance of the people the topic is important to. It also helps a lot that it doesn’t perpetuate harmful stereotypes of Native peoples
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  • Magicjohnny
    replied to Scion x WtA: Totem Spirit Pantheon
    Nobody here as far as I’m aware has bullied people for not being minorities, the only thing we have been doing is just saying that maybe just maybe perpetuating harmful stereotypes of real life people is bad
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  • Magicjohnny
    replied to Scion x WtA: Totem Spirit Pantheon
    Yeah I’m friends with a hindu who loves Percy Jackson and they have repeatedly praised Rick for actually trying to be respectful and for apologizing when he does wrong things unknowingly, he isn’t some pinnacle of artistic license of heritage, he’s a dude who recognizes that artistic license isn’t an excuse for perpetuating harmful ideas
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  • Magicjohnny
    replied to Scion x WtA: Totem Spirit Pantheon
    Respecting real life cultures and their faiths isn’t gatekeeping, if anything it’s the opposite it allows members of those cultures and faiths to feel safe, to feel that the community does indeed care. The problem with Werewolf and it’s treatment of Native people, is that it perpetuates stereotypes of Native people as violent and savage and animalistic and primitive, stereotypes that are used in real life to hurt those people
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  • Magicjohnny
    replied to Scion x WtA: Totem Spirit Pantheon
    Nobody has said you can’t use non-white mythologies or that you have to be educated in them, all people have been have been saying is that you should be respectful in your portrayals of them...
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  • Magicjohnny
    replied to Scion x WtA: Totem Spirit Pantheon
    Tell me how else am I supposed to read:


    Like I’m genuinely asking, how can this be anything other then a personal attack towards Samudra?...
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  • Magicjohnny
    replied to Scion x WtA: Totem Spirit Pantheon
    Did you seriously just accuse someone of wanting to trample on human rights just because they’re rightfully offending by offensive material? Isn’t that literally breaking the “no personal attacks rule”?...
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  • Magicjohnny
    replied to Scion x WtA: Totem Spirit Pantheon
    Yeah there’s a massive difference between an American or European writer presenting Odin or the Christian god as dicks, and perpetuating harmful stereotypes of oppressed minorities. The former doesn’t hurt anyone, Christianity in the West is ridiculously huge, a writer in the West portraying their god in a negative light isn’t going to hurt anyone. Meanwhile the thing about the Thuggees in Indiana Jones is legitimately harmful, as it perpetuates harmful stereotypes. The same applies to WTA and it’s approach towards Native people’s, it perpetuates legitimately harmful stereotypes of Native...
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  • Magicjohnny
    replied to Scion x WtA: Totem Spirit Pantheon
    Scion may be a game, but it’s game that deals with real things: cultures and religions, things don’t exist in a vacuum, Wendigo is an actual term from an actual people who actually exist in actual real life, and not only that but they’re an actual people who have actually been repeatedly oppressed both in the past and today. Taking that term, ripping it from it’s context in order to profit off of stereotypes of those real people is legitimately bad on Werewolf: The Apocalypse’s part, and any fan-project should recognize what parts of the source material should stay and what should leave,...
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    Last edited by Magicjohnny; 07-30-2020, 04:54 AM.

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  • Magicjohnny
    replied to Scion x WtA: Totem Spirit Pantheon
    I’ll be honest: the usage of Wendigo and Uktena as patrons, does disturb me and this attitude applies to the source material as well. This is a prime excuse to change the names, and remove the offensive stereotyping of Native people tied to that, I’m sure they’ll still work fine if you change those two names 😃. And yeah I’m with Manus and Samudra, presenting the gods of real life religions, ones that have historically and presently oppression, as idiots is objectionable on basic principles.
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