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  • I mean, Salubri do get Auspex, if we're going the supernatural route. "Oh, I actually had a message for you, from <concentrates for a moment> Szymon, your Sire's Sire's brother's childe, in the chantry at <concentrates a moment longer> Bordeaux. He said I should find you, and you'd introduce me to the regent, help me get settled in. Afterward, consider that minor boon from <another moment of concentration> fifteen years ago to be repaid."
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  • Fifth edition has also merged those two disciplines, so they have the same spread entirely now! (If the Noiad show up again and don't just get swept under the rug, that is.)...
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  • According to the Wiki at least, the Baali have managed to infiltrate House Tremere and hide undetected for centuries, partially because their blood is almost indistinguishable from a Tremere's even via Thaumaturgy (because something something Saulot created the Baali maybe). Presumably that would work even better for an actual Salubri.
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  • Draconis
    replied to [2E] Ordo Dracul Titles
    I could absolutely see the Carthians for example saying "no we don't have a Prince, we have two elected Consuls", but I imagine "Prince" is a common default regardless, even among the other covenants.
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  • Draconis
    replied to Oblivion and Predator Type
    Since Oblivion is the only(?) discipline not included in the corebook, it's also the only one without any predator types referencing it.

    There's a homebrew PT floating around called "Vulture", where you feed on the dead and dying and gain a dot of Fortitude or Oblivion. We may also get an Oblivion-centric PT in one of the upcoming books that features Oblivion (Cults and the Player's Guide).
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  • Draconis
    replied to Daywalker?
    Also, Epidermal Shielding Bath.
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  • If I remember right, the Player's Guide will have at least one new PT.
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  • Helena isn't a childe of an antediluvian (she ate her Sire) and those Ravnos might not have survived the Week (though that's not entirely clear from BJD).
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  • It doesn't seem like a flaw until you realize that Potence 1 does agg to you. Ouch. (I didn't realize this until my thinblood got cornered by their two-dot Adversary, who was a Nosferatu…he smashed their head against a marble staircase and nearly filled their health track with agg in a single hit.)



    Page 149: "Fresh bloodsuckers, like thinbloods and many fledglings, do not select a Predator type as they are still figuring out this aspect of their nocturnal existence."

    I've used a houserule that thinbloods do get a predator type if they're old/established...
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  • Necromancy will be merged with Oblivion, and will show up in both the Player's Guide and Cults.
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  • (Menele is dead as of the new CbN; I vaguely remember Rayzeel being dead as of BJD too, but my memory is hazier on that one.)
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  • Draconis
    replied to Rules Clarification Question
    I'm not a dev, but here's some precedent, from the same book. Look at the Oath of Matrimony on page 190.



    Emphasis mine. No mention of "free" here, even though other places talk about "receiving a free dot" explicitly (even on the same page!). But it's pretty clear that the dots aren't supposed to cost xp (since they can be made permanent with experience, indicating that they aren't by default), and explicitly aren't covered by Sanctity....
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  • Draconis
    replied to V5 Humanity
    Would you call Mages fundamentally human, in the sense of Humanity as a whole? I wouldn't, same with werewolves, changelings, wraiths, and so on.
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  • Vampires still suffer wound penalties, so I would assume they also get tired/fatigued, even if it's just for psychosomatic reasons (so I'd say a vampire in frenzy does not suffer fatigue penalties either).
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  • Draconis
    replied to V5 Humanity
    I mean, that's only if you see Stains as the game/ST punishing you/your character. (Though "humanity loss isn't a punishment from on high" is also more of a Requiem than a Masquerade view, to be fair.) There are already powers which automatically give/risk Stains every time you use them, such as the entirety of Oblivion; I don't see that as a punishment for playing a Lasombra, but as a representation that people who draw power from Entropy itself are unlikely to be especially human....
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  • Draconis
    replied to V5 Humanity
    I'm biased by Requiem 2e Humanity (which is where the whole idea of Touchstones comes from), but I'd give stains mostly for inhuman things, not necessarily for immoral things. Killing someone in self-defense would be less stain-provoking than cutting out someone's eye and tongue to use in a blood ritual, because humans just don't do that. Same for shooting someone vs boiling their blood in their veins with Sorcery.
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  • Pretty much. Two points in one, one point in another, then add a predator type discipline.

    But there's no real reason to mention the zero. Most vampires will have a third in-clan with no starting dots in it, but Caitiff have no in-clan disciplines at all, so it doesn't matter....
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  • Assamites are in the Cam book and Lasombra are in CbN. Giovanni (and their kin) will be in Cults of the Blood Gods, coming out soon; Ravnos will be in the Player's Guide, coming out a little bit less soon, if you want to wait for them....
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  • Agreed. It seems like something that should be more generally useful, given their description.

    One houserule I played around with was: any contract with a duration of one scene can be extended to one day; one day to one week; one week to one month; one month to one season; one season to one year; one year to indefinite. Mostly to make them into a MacGuffin for one of the monarchs to extend a contract (I don't remember which) to affect the Freehold forever.
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  • One of my favorites is the Semioticians, from the Crone book. They're basically atheistic Acolytes who see all the different deities and myths as metaphors—and are able to use that interpretation to do Crúac, distilling rituals down into formulas combining different beliefs and sources.
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