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  • I think hate is too strong a word. Then again, I'm disappointed by people hating on V5 too! So maybe it's apt.

    In the case of Vampire: The Requiem, I actually think that it was made as such as a means to prevent the edition wars that did happen with the various Revised editions. VRev did have quite a bit of warring at the time it was released, MRev had a lot more and there was a general kick-back generally against White Wolf in the late 1990s as fans reacted negatively to new editions. Hunter: the Reckoning was particularly disliked, from memory. What V:Req attempted to do, by discontinuing...
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  • Well, they did. It would probably be in transcripts of the Monday Meeting Notes some years back. There is also a picture of Eddy Webb (?) holding up a "VV" sign at a Gencon stand or seminar. I recall discussing it with RichT in Monday Meeting Note forums as to why they wanted a new edition. The reason given was to do with feedback that the V20 book was seen as too big by casual gamers, although I think it really just came down to cyclic financial drives to be honest. New editions are the way in which businesses keep old games alive.

    I've no idea what would have gone in it,...
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  • I'm not sure that there was much in the pipeline for V20 supplements anyway was there? Dont forget that OP had already announced a new edition of Vampire themselves, before White Wolf reclaimed it, which strongly suggests that they didn't think V20 had any more commercial mileage. What other supplements could there be for it? For me, the V20 book was so big anyway, most of the supplements seemed like overkill (with the exception of the Hunter's Hunted book and Vampire: The Dark Ages, perhaps).

    I doubt that there will be any development on V20 now, in any case, as there would be no...
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  • It wasn't discussed on Modiphius forums either. The change must have come later, after the issues they had, because the White Wolf business plans - in particular the website back catalogue subscriptions - were cancelled. They were meant to go on for at least a year. Also, they had made some discussion of future plans - unofficially announcing a new edition of Werewolf at Gencon, for example. Plans have definitely been changed.

    Modiphius definitely were chosen as a distribution partner, but maybe they just saw an opportunity when White Wolf themselves started to struggle? Also note...
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  • I'm not sure any of the Modiphius supplements (London by Night, The Players' Guide, The Intro Box, The Second Inquisition) were given a green light before Modiphius took over. They certainly weren't announced in any formal way.

    I don't actually see how the V5 was going to be supported in any heavy fashion before, either. When White Wolf announced they would be re-organising, they said that they weren't planning any more supplements themselves anyway - and 'brand management' was always part of the plan. I think the evidence suggests that Modiphius decided to expand on the line of their...
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  • I'm not sure that Modiphius actually has any rights to BESM, as the only White Wolf license they seem to be dealing with is Vampire. I don't honestly think there is much of a demand for a new edition of BESM, in any case. New editions require planning and resources to develop, and the market has changed quite a bit since BESM was last in print....
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