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  • Obviously if your ST likes to throw Solars or Single Point stylists at you that strat falls apart quickly, but against most spirits and a fair share of Legendary size enemies there isn't much they can do.


    Well the crashing yourself bit is mostly just a neat bonus when you know the opponent can't kill you quickly, 3 dice to get 2 successes is the sort of needless risk that can turn a speed bump fight into an interesting one . As you note, even without taking that risk the opponent is still mostly dead.

    Oh the Vicious Lunge letting you grapple while crashed is...
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  • I went directly to the source and asked the player, his strat that could one shot almost anything was this :

    1) Delay your 1st turn to act last. if you get crashed by your opponent during that time you are in the best possible position (you may even want to forego using an Excellency on your JB and refuse to apply your DV when the enemy attacks you if you feel confident).

    2) Grapple the opponent (Vicious Lunge lets you Grapple even while crashed) and throw everything you have at the enemy, lowering his ini below yours.

    3) New round begins, you act first,...
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  • Things get a bit more complicated, but I guess you'd get something like an angry parent shadow self, someone who's mumbling to himself how he can't believe his true self is so conceited that he's forced to take over if they're going to do a good deed for no material reward. "Do the right thing, you idiot!"



    You could ask Vance to be sure, but I think a Bright-Mind Meditation custom Charm fits in the Lunar design space and would be perfectly in-theme for a darker Lunar....
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  • The way it's presented as the character's shadow self, I think its primary function is to bypass your own intimacies. Your shadow self is the cold-blooded realist inside you who goes behind your back and does all the dirty work it believes you're too soft or weak-willed to do yourself.

    Your shadow self will happily deal with the slaver you have a Major tie of Hatred towards, or abandon a friend if helping them would mean sacrificing something important to you. It doesn't bypass Defining Intimacies because you're both supposed to be trying to achieve the same thing in the end - what...
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  • Epitome
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    Lunars get their bond stuff through Charms. Either by giving a bonus effect to a Charm if the target is your Solar mate, or outright by having a Charm that requires a Solar mate to do anything. For instance they have a silent communication Charm which can grant permanent telepathy with your Solar mate, and they have Charms to grant Evocations to their Solar mate's Artifact and to use said Artifact as though they were attuned and resonant with it.

    So you could probably give such bond effects to Solar Charms or create Solar bond Charms. You just need to be careful about balance if both...
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  • Epitome
    replied to Help. Need characters and Behemoths
    Here's a Behemoth I made for one of my games :

    name : Akharenos, the Crystal that Binds
    what is it : semi-sentient Giant Crystal Golem that seeks to encase everything in crystal, drawn most strongly to sorcerous workings that reshape the land.
    mechanics :
    -Charm that crystalizes the ground around the golem in a large area, rooting targets that are hit by the effect in place. Repeated use of the Charm applies an increasing penalty that culminates with the victim being encased in Crystal, knocking them out and causing death by asphyxiation if left alone. The crystallization...
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  • Epitome
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    If the presence of both Solars & Lunars is an important feature of the game, then you could explore all the different ways a Solar and Lunar can be connected. Have a Solar/Lunar couple who are friends, another who are rivals, one where the Solar is corrupted and the Lunar has to deal with that, one where they are lovers across the ages except one of them is already in a relationship when they find each other. That sort of thing....
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  • Epitome
    replied to Help. Need characters and Behemoths
    Epitome is a Lore Supernal Zenith with the heart of a Twilight. He believes he knows it all, is overconfident in all scholarly endeavors, and tends to give himself the credit for any successes his Circle achieves even when it is obvious to everyone else that he is full of it. He is over a hundred years old but looks like a vigorous 60 years old man. He sports a traditional wise man's long white beard, and he wears the most opulent scholarly attire he can get his hands on. A past incarnation left him a message warning him that Creation would need lost knowledge to keep the Wyld from devouring it,...
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  • Epitome
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    The -5 penalty you refer to is mentioned in Instill attempts specifically (i.e. for creating the belief "The World was created by a pink Elephant riding a unicycle"). A strict reading of the rule does not clearly state that you can shove lies into a Persuade attempt in return for taking a penalty.

    Following Kelly's reading of the rules, what I would do in your 2nd scenario is have the farmer immediately try to see if you're lying when you tell him the Witch killed his Wife, and give you -5 to your Guile on the farmer's roll for a truly unbelievable claim. Now if you're the...
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  • Epitome
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    I don't know this spell, but unless otherwise specified, I would assume that the spell doesn't boost rolls which aren't ability-based. So you get 30 dice accuracy but only 5L damage. In effect, your teammates are all helping you land the perfect shot, rather than all shooting at the target at the same time....
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  • Epitome
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    I'm not actually sure how our examples differ, other than you used existing Intimacies to strengthen the lie while I created new ones. If you had created new intimacies rather than find and exploit the farmer's existing intimacies, wouldn't it have been just as complicated as in my example?

    EDIT : Nevermind, I realize now that in your example there is never an intimacy specifically for the lie that the wife was murdered. It does simplify things a lot not to subject facts (or lies) to Instill rolls. I'll have to think this over a bit....
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  • I got it mixed up a bit, it's multiple Withering and 1 Decisive, but basically it's the last 2 Charms of Solar Grapple that do it : Titan-Straightening Method lets you give up your rounds of control in return for many Withering Attacks, and Raging Wrath Repeated resets your grapple to its beginning state and lets you attack immediately when you crash a grappled foe. So you devour all the opponent's ini with the 0 DV Withering attacks, and then because you crashed them you're back at full rounds of control and can immediately 0 DV Decisive them to death, dealing the full falling damage from Crashing...
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  • Haven't played it myself, but a friend of mine played full Solar Grapple and judged it was basically auto-win in 1v1 (If I remember correctly, under normal circumstances you get to crash the target and then unleash 2 full Decisives against 0 DV on Turn 1). He had no qualms with the mechanics themselves, but then again he loves rules-heavy systems like Exalted's.
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  • Epitome
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    Yeah I took too many shortcuts with that example, let me start over :

    1. I instill The Witch killed my Wife (Minor) by inventing a rumor that the Witch steals people's souls and makes it appear as an illness.

    2. I instill The Witch's Magic lingers in my home (Minor) by planting false evidence of dark magic in said home.

    3. I strengthen The Witch killed my Wife to Major by leaning on The Witch's Magic Lingers in my home (Minor), pondering aloud why else the Witch's magic would be here if not because she stole his wife's soul.

    4. I instill The...
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  • I think we're in agreement here. I'm solidly in the non-optimized crowd, but I see no reason to dunk on people who prefer a different playstyle....
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  • Couldn't agree more. Your character is your primary way of interacting with the other players in the game, so you need to keep the rest of the group in mind. Someone dead set on min-maxing their character in a group that doesn't optimize may be doing so at the expense of the fun of everyone else, and ultimately at the expense of the game itself. OR everyone else might be fine with it and the ST might be fine with there being a single min-maxed character among the players, in which case everything is fine (I ST a game which is exactly like that). In the end what matters is being considerate towards...
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  • Epitome
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    That seems off, why do you not need to instill in the target that the witch killed his wife? If the Persuade action is enough on its own to make him believe your lie, doesn't that mean you're persuading somebody to believe something, as you've just said cannot be done?

    To me "I love my wife" is not a valid Intimacy to leverage for the Persuade action "Kill the Witch". There's obviously a step missing between the two, and you can't just skip the entire process of convincing the target that those two things are related by stunting a lie in your Persuade action....
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  • Epitome
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    Isn't that what the Decision Point is for? If the poor sap is out of wp you can even make their application of Resolve into a 2 point stunt of remembering their dead parent's funeral in crisp detail when they tell the Solar in no uncertain terms that no, getting the Solar a coffee will not resurrect their dead parent.

    Also the lie still needs to be the appropriate intensity. If you want someone to risk their life out of the lie it might reunite them with a dead parent, you're gonna have to instill the lie and then upgrade it to Major and then Defining, which will require you to know...
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  • Epitome
    replied to Survey: Where is your 3rd ed game set?
    My recently ended game went something like that. We spent ~2 irl years making a name for ourselves in the South and solving every problem there, culminating with taking down Ahlat and setting up a river Goddess in his stead.

    Then the Circle started heading West to continue the main Campaign, which was meant to take us across all of Creation. But it felt like the story we'd actually become invested in was already over, so the game just sort of petered out....
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  • Epitome
    replied to Best Control Spells?
    Shadows of the Ancient Past can have godlike narrative effects, and that goes double if you can show other people the unspeakable secrets you've unearthed.

    Using the spell, our circle accidentally found out what happened to the Empress while investigating something completely unrelated. If we'd had the ability to replay that scene to DB leadership, the ensuing chaos would have been legendary.
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