I'd say that the Haven dots would constitute an exception. The only thing the player is really benefiting from are the sunproofing and subtle, comfortable nuances of staying in the home of another Kindred. A Safe Place rating should still exist, but that would be at the discretion of the ST. Just because you're crashing on the couch doesn't mean the Haven's owner will batten down the hatches if someone comes looking for you.

Likewise, I'd say no to the Breaking Point. The Haven doesn't belong to the character, and their departure was an understood inevitability. They aren't able to...