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[Alphari]

This is the power of Blood Sorcery (Perhaps dark thaumaturgy), written in "DAV20"
It seems that in the old editions there was a similar force for invoking spirits of nature (or something other).
At least this power was mentioned in DVA20....

[Alphari]

Explain me the "relationship" between spirits and vampires.

In the "V20" on p.387 we can find the description of "Fallen" and their characteristics emulated through vampire forces.
They have "Skills" and "Attributes".
They can increase knowledge, acquire new powers, their essence is immortal. They have bodies or very strong vessels.

V20 Tome of Secrets p.111

Here we are shown the description of the call of demons and their characteristics and strengths (again, emulated from the point of view of...

[Alphari]

Dark Ages: Fae 181






Vampire: The Dark Ages




And some Rule from V1ed or V2ed.

http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/Fae/RPS...gFaeBlood.html...

[Alphari]

It is more about magicians than demons.
Mages do not even need "experience" to study new power of spheres combinations.

So... demons only increase their "internal battery" and improve their skills/Lores. Ok....

[Alphari]

I remember in the 2 editions of fairies there were rules for drinking their blood.
But there the fairies were different, they were divided by seasons.

[Alphari]

They are not shatter, they simply wither and die... Slowly, but when the magician realizes that his "Magick" does not work ... he dies in despair.
Yet the curse of Cain is strong.
I remember that there are stages of Avatar's withering and his addiction to vampire blood.

And that makes sense. Cain was cursed by God.

After all, if magicians could safely use the Vitae, it would be OP.



That's right, many types of bloody magic should have their own system of magic.
I remember in 2 or 3 editions some of the magic of Africa...

[Alphari]

I found contradictions in some rules.
Itarajana, do they suffer from taking vampire blood?
I remember simple magicians lose power in a couple of years.
But in the Black Hand, some of the magicians somehow use blood, some probably use it in large quantities. Especially those who disguise themselves in the mortal world.

However, the blood only "paralyzes" their ascent.
other magicians can become addicted to the power of blood (and even itarajana can, probably) and later lose their Avatar, but the ancient euthanatos do not.

[Alphari]

no one has released a new edition of "Demons", but they were mentioned in vampires 20th and DAV20 + Black Hand.

Actually, the question is how to describe the power of the arch- "demon". In their book there are only forces up to 5 points, after 5 points there comes the strength of very powerful dukes.

Can they have more than 5 points in one Lore? Or do all archdemones simply use standard powers and rituals and a very large supply of faith?

Let's say we have a demon that has sheltered Inconnu from enemies. He does not have the power to do...

[Alphari]

Are there other editions?
It seems that KotE was released on the 3rd edition of vampires.
Further they were mentioned only in 4 editions in the Middle Ages and in Saulot's third bloodline.
(Which used Valeren and could see fate.)


kuei-jin were more like carnivorous corpses.

Although I may be mistaken and this is just Indian corpse-cannibals....

[Alphari]

If I am not mistaken, does Kuey-jin's “balance” allow them to spend one blood point for several days, protect them from the sun, and allow them to live almost as a person?

Golden chi? I remembered something about the "golden people", it turned out to be mere mortals.
BUT! The pure quintessence that they absorb from the magicians or the "dragon's nest" (or what do they call them?) is charged to Yin/Yang/Demon? or not?

[Alphari]

Thank.

I have another question now. Is there any effect of drinking golden chi?
Wan Xian can be in one of 3 phases (or 4? Is there any Demon-Chi phase?). Phase Yang, Ying, and a some golconda like "golden balance." They need to absorb pure quintessence for the last stage.
Actually, for Cainite, there is no difference on how blood is charged?

[Alphari]

I saw this, but I can not remember where I saw such a rule. But now... i cant find this rule.

[Alphari]

In the "World of Darkness" when a vampire drinks blood of other creatures he can get bonuses or disadvantages.
This applies to the blood of fairies, psionics, werewolves (+ pureblood werewolves).

As I know, some power of disciplines were "created" by the Cainites when they drank the blood of other creatures ... for example, the phoenix.
"Draught of Phoenix Blood". This is the power that one of clan Gangrel created after she drank the blood of the phoenix. However, this force does not need phoenix blood for training.


But...