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[Alphari]

Saulot is...

Anyway... ritual - Father’s Freedom (Level 3). Inconnu, not Black Hand... but ritual work as i said....

[Alphari]

But... this is written in more than one book. I'm even sure that there are signs that the soul was eaten - no ghost in underworld, non-working necromancy, second soul in vampire... Saulot in Tremere's body. Some black hand ritual can free soul...


So... elders can kill clan enemy with the teeth of a caitiff. Sounds interesting....

[Alphari]

You can, just be closer to Cain. Moreover, in addition to Dominate (in the description of which this was mentioned somewhere), it seems that somewhere there were stories about the resurrection of vampires in other's bodies (hm... Tremere? Saulot? Tzimisce? I remember something about one occultist resurrected in body of neonate).
There are also 2 combo disciplines (technically one, since the second one is killing us) - Eminence of Shade.

Well... now I can blame neonates for diablerie.

[Alphari]

Hypothetical situation.
Lasombra (elder) has neonate. He used dominate to take body and decided to drink the blood of the third vampire. According to the logic, the blood goes into the vessel (neonate). Right?
But what if he wants to drink the soul? Can he do it? Where will the soul go? In the body of a neonate or an elder?

[Alphari]

[I'm too late, you answered this... so i delete post because i have no new information. Except artifacts which contain nature spirits (Lore of Spirit i think)]

[Alphari]

In theory, you can spit on the rules and take the fairies from the dark ages with their features. But this is hard to do with COD. I mean, too many rules need to be changed, and COD changelings are people stolen by fairies (or am I wrong?). But to be honest, I do not really understand what exactly you want to combine.
I would recommend looking for crossover posts....

[Alphari]

I think it's the following: different story, themes, atmosphere, significantly changed mechanics, rarity of fairies.

Let's compare:

• Let's talk about the available types of fairies. Modern changelings have several subtypes: there are changelings themselves and many half-spirits, half-faeries, chimeras in elementals, statues or living nature, even banality-fairy and so on. In the Dark Ages, we have less choice - True fairy and changelings (that's the whole choice, if I'm not mistaken), maybe one more subspecies. & No legacy in DA
• Fairies in ancient times are powerful (because

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[Alphari]

Maybe yes, maybe no. I mean that there is a system of special secret worlds (or zones... or even illusional/mental form in mind/soul) that are often accessed by a small number of beings. They do not fully reflect a specific area, but in terms of philosophy they are suitable for both Nephandi and followers of other practices (including practitioners of the left hand). You can get to these worlds, say, through the astral plane (although you need to go through the fiery dimension under the control of the demon lord) or in your dreams (if you worship Lilith). But priests (or demonologists) don't report...

[Alphari]

I had an idea - in mage books mentioned divine revelations (kabbalah). There was even one God-seeker who became Nephandi because he believed that God is in everything and the world is beautiful. Qliphothic worlds were mentioned in M20: Fallen. As we can see, there are worlds that can be classified as Qliphothic worlds, there are magicians and thinkers who study them, there are deities and demons that inhabit those worlds. But is there an alternative (opposite) to them? Where are the worlds of the Sefirot? Were they? Or is the material world of the Earth the embodiment of 10 spheres in one place?...