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  • Look I know you're trying to be nice here but this is not the first time a Salagimsim thread has end-arounded into "Mass production of Exalts". I am legitimately disappointed an interesting topic is being presented as just another byway to pointless simulationism....
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  • Hey this seems like a cool thread



    Nevermind...
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  • 8. "Tell me how that makes you feel"
    9. "It's me or the Guild."
    10. "Do I look like her? I made sure to keep her alive long enough to learn how to imitate her."

    The Fae are great monstrosities in Exalted.
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  • ParanoiaCombo
    replied to Are there any plans for "Exalted Lite"
    To clarify, my position is that OPP wouldn't even consider doing these things, even if they were sufficiently analyzed ideas. I consider pitching to them to be a waste of all of our time. They aren't going to listen.

    What constitutes rules lite or rules medium though? Much more interesting as a topic for fodder, even if not the original OP intent.

    I'd say for Lite the best system you could use would be PbtA. Medium? Much more of a tossup....
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  • ParanoiaCombo
    replied to Are there any plans for "Exalted Lite"
    I'm more interested in the merit of discussion rather than pitching things into an empty void though...
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  • ParanoiaCombo
    replied to Are there any plans for "Exalted Lite"
    I hear you but have you ever heard of a thing called the Pathfinder Beginner Box?

    Pathfinder, for those not in know, is a take on Dungeons and Dragons 3.5 edition, crunch heavy, rules heavy, and cumbersome. Some people love it! It does well in sales (well, until recently). The Beginner Box offers a simplified version of PF rules and every now and again I see a thread pop up on RPG.net "Hey have they ever considered making this the whole game/a version of this?"

    I share that sentiment, obviously.

    I point this out because I strongly believe the demographic...
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  • ParanoiaCombo
    replied to Are there any plans for "Exalted Lite"
    The thing is, people in the middle crunch spectrum got HOSED by Exalted, which is why this keeps coming up.

    2E is a broken mess. 2.5 is a bandaid ontop of a sucking maw. 1E has different but persistent problems. 3E *works* and is a perfectly cromulent system but it leaves no room for jesus, if you'll pardon appropriating the conservative expression. What I mean is 3E has so many interlocking systems, a solution in past broken white wolf games (all cWoD games have terrible broken systems) would be to just handwave away stuff. You just can't do that in EX3. Everything is so tightly...
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  • ParanoiaCombo
    replied to Are there any plans for "Exalted Lite"
    Hey if you give me 10$ and sandwich I'll write a hack of the game in whatever rules lite system you want. Asking someone to develop a rules lite variant in an existing system is not nearly the hurdle you make it out to be and lots of those systems would welcome partnering with groups like WW/OPP. I mean we can take time to make d20 WW products but not rules lite ones?

    Point 1 is a fair point and I acknowledge that. I'm sympathetic to people though who don't want to be railroaded into playing in a system they don't want. On the other hand I'm more sympathetic to the legion of disappointed...
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  • ParanoiaCombo
    replied to Are there any plans for "Exalted Lite"
    A PbtA hack of Solars done in 5 hours is better than my entire experience with using EX3's cluttered mess of systems. It's anecdotal but crunch-time is a real factor for people who aren't hobbyists and just want to play a damn game. Lots of those people don't post on forums, either....
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  • ParanoiaCombo
    replied to Are there any plans for "Exalted Lite"
    Man can you even imagine if they would do such a thing? They would double their playerbase for low effort, because it takes very little effort to de-crunch something down to a more rules lite package. That would be awesome.

    That's also why they would never do it. It'd be a good idea.
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