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  • And you legitimately believe the firearms in possession by Kindred and their retainers are legally owned either? Mortal laws have little weight to supernaturals due to how much they already influence or corrupt such institutions. The Kuei-Jin more than any supernatural (or "shen" as called in the Middle Kingdom) have the most influence in mortal society and control the few criminal organizations that are given leeway by the CCP in China (Triad and the other miscellaneous organizations). One of the most powerful factions of the Kuei-jin, the Blood Court, control BEIJING as their headquarters-...
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  • Do you think the Kuei-Jin don't have guns or access to them either? What "technological equalizer" do you drone on about?



    That's even more of a reason why the Anarchs could do anything serious against the Kuei-Jin, only the Camarilla and Sabbat (before the V5 mess) would be serious opponents for them. Disorganized bands of rabble against the ones who control the highly militant, organized likes of the CCP, Triad, and multiple corporations aren't going to win at all. [/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR]...
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  • The main thing is that the Hungry Dead have no generation. The average Kindred in the Final Nights is very high generation at this point, extremely weak compared to the an average Dharma'd Kuei-Jin. Coupled with the fact that almost all the low-tiers of Kuei-Jin have better training off the bat, it's extremely laughable for anyone to say that the Kindred flat out have more advantages. Even the numbers of the Kuei-Jin are more for the sheer amount of people that die every second in Asia and the amount who actually score the chance of escaping Yomi Wan. The Shintai they possess are OP from allowing...
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  • The Abyss has more to do with the Middle-Umbra than the Low-Umbra by considerable margin to note also. Obtenebration is about active malignant darkness, while Oblivion (not the discipline, but the concept in WTO) in Wraith is complete nothingness, nill, nada, zilch. They aren't comparable at all. Taking Obtenebration, then shoe-horning it into and nonsensical new discipline out of nowhere baring the namesake of Oblivion from Wraith was idiotic.
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  • The Lasombra are Darwinists. Obtenebration with its mix of offensive abilities and slight addage of stealth is perfect for being an "Apex Predator." Obfuscate is merely all about hiding, spying, and camouflage, but little in the way for fighting. Sure Obtenebration and Obfuscate have some minute "similarities" through both of them being "shadow based," but that's about it entirely. Obtenebration is a signature for Lasombra because their entire clan history is one that has focused on the preternatural darkness of things since their Antediluvian....
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  • World of Darkness, 2nd Edition?
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  • I'm assuming that since you ask this, the Vampire in question is in the Shadowlands. Wu is right about the Artifact and also you can try and convince a Wraith to let you in their Haunt. Haunts IIRC are protected from Maelstorm if you get in on time. The Citadel (the central nucleus of the average Necropoli basically, think of a Government House/Fortress) is also another focal point of pure defense against a Maelstorm as well.
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  • That is basically your own ST fiat. If you need a good guide though I'd rule it like this: large century long cities with the obvious that many people have live and died in it for a long time have an enormous pool of the Wraith specialized in what your need (because remember out all the supernatural splats in WoD, Wraiths are the most numerous). Mid to Large Towns could have a moderate to small amount, but expect them to want some things in return for any services rendered (that is if you don't just attempt to enslave them with Necromancy, but that could spark the ire of the Circle (think Coterie,...
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  • What about reality zones? What if you specifically make an entity that is an analogue to a notorious cryptid/urban legend to the region your in, would Disbelief effect the creature you made?...
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  • -Wraiths and Spectres by large can cross the other side depending how weak the Shroud level is in the area. The Shroud represents how deathly and morbid a particular area is. If you have a Wraith ally or just lackey and you want them to do a task, they aren't going to manifest in a highly developed shopping mall or a high pop University early in the morning. Its not that they CAN'T though, but the difficulty rating against the Shroud to Embody will be to hard to get through. Have them do tasks at night or if they need to do something in the morning, send them to Embody in a particularly decrepit...
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  • Shakanaka
    replied to Obtenebration or Oblivion?
    Necromancy never had anything to do with the Abyss at all, the various Paths related to Necromancy was explicitly Low Umbric aligned. Lasombra by LARGE are the only Vampires who dealt with whatever the "Abyss" is (because we still don't know concretely) so what you insinuate doesn't make any sense. It resolves no "issues" and the make-up of the Oblivion technique was a method to kill "two birds with one stone," -Find an excuse to decimate the signature technique of the Lasombra for whatever reason and another fold to just decimate Necromancy for no reason. So your...
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  • Shakanaka
    started a topic Deadliest Monsters you can make?

    Deadliest Monsters you can make?

    Recently I have been inspired playing Dwarf Fortress on how in particular Necromancers since the new update for the game can make various unique creatures that aren't undead and appoint them into their armies or just sic them in the wilds for whatever reason. Without the use of Arch-Spheres (because getting to that ranking is extremely hard XP and roleplay wise), what are some of the deadliest Monsters a Mage can make?...
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  • Well technically Humanity can never "beat" supernaturals.. since at the end of the day, Wraiths will still be a thing as long as Humanity exists.
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  • Shakanaka
    replied to Favorite Clans and Why
    It's an explicitly supernatural game, of course there is going to be magic... what do you honestly expect? Even the basic disciplines all the Clans utilize technically count as "magic."
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  • Shakanaka
    started a topic Favorite Clans and Why

    Favorite Clans and Why

    In this thread discuss your favorite clan. I'll start:

    Venture- I used to not like or necessarily dislike them at first. At the time I felt they were just too vanilla compared to the other interesting clans, but over time they became my favorite from the sheer awesomeness they were in the Dark Ages, shadow rulers of Rome in Antiquity and how their practically the de facto rulers of Vampire society if either Camarilla, Anarch, or Sabbat. I as a per their clan, they have baseline access to the two most potent disciplines for manipulating the Kine and other Kindred to their whims: Dominate...
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  • All of these are so gloriously OP... lol. Especially Vicissitude and Protean.
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  • I only recently got into the general landscape of World of Darkness 3 years ago. WoD and CofD have their different niches entirely and have different fanbases that don't have the same views. Merging is a bad idea and frankly the new edition of Vampire can be seen as a soft CofD in oWoD already with so many mechanics from there stuffed into it. Admittedly as someone who is in the oWoD camp there are a few lines in CofD I like better than their counterparts; How Changeling is handled in CofD is much, much more better. Demon the Descent was also better than DTF. I also liked how the Vampires in Requiem...
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    And that's what Demon COULD have been as the final line before oWoD stopped; An adequate explanation for the creation of WoD and how all the splats relate to one another. Instead the entirety of DTF is a bible class RPG with nothing interesting about it. Part of what makes WoD unique and interesting is that it not only lets you play as these supernatural entities (Mage, Werewolf, Fae, Vampire, Mummy, Wraith/Ghost etc.), but it turns the usual tropes on their head in how they are enacted (with of course some elements of their former originality still involved...
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  • The Garou would probably want to kill any Void Engineer if they ever sighted one in the Umbra. They'd probably believe that detachment of VE would either be Pentex or that their somesort of cultists belonging to the Weaver. Though if the VE at the time has a heavily upgraded Voidship arsenal, at best they would be watched from afar only by the Garou and not engage....
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  • Shakanaka
    replied to Crossover
    Wait, what? Why would humans have Humanity? They're already human. Vampires having Humanity as part of their in-universe and general meta aspect is so that the beast every Kindred bares can be reined in or they find an alternative Path to achieve it. Humans in VTM alone only have Humanity for gamesake reasons for it purely being in VTM, but nowhere else does the Humanity mechanic exist for the other lines because it isn't needed. Humans in Mage don't have Humanity because its a VTM mechanic, Humans in Werewolf don't have Humanity because its a VTM mechanic, Wraith, Hunter (the actual Hunter line,...
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