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  • That is really accurate. Were you at Alliance Distribution when this went down?

    This wasn't a return or a strip cover situation. The had us recall all products from stores and had a WW employee on hand to physically guard the books 24 hrs a day until they were satisfied that they had all that they were going to get. Then they burned the whole skid of them so nothing was allowed to survive because they were afraid (probably correctly) employees were going to take home the books instead of them being destroyed completely. The goal was clear force the old games out of existence. In all...
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  • Except for that time when oWW rounded up all the WoD books that the could get their hands on at the distribution centers and physically destroyed them all to shove CofD down our throats. The previous version weren't in print for along time after that. I may still have the security footage from Alliance for that somewhere....
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  • Wait I got confused are you using Pre-V5 vampire or V5? Pre-V5 the 1st ed DA 5 dot Quietus power could technically work. Also Vicissitude could theoretically make a "Juice Box" out of vampiric flesh and blood. In V5 thin bloods are different mechanically from actual vampires -- no blood potency and such.

    The Mage advice is according to the minimum by what those levels do, I don't think there is a published ritual for becoming vampires. Life and Matter to make a permanent transformation and Prime to infuse magic into the pattern. Paradox can slightly alter reality as an effect...
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  • Thinbloods don't have disciplines in V5 they have their own special powers.

    OP:
    From Vampire: Just hand wave it as that's how it worked, nothing in vampire really covers this except for specifically disallowing it in some editions (has to be drank from the vein of the vampire).

    From a Mage: Prime 5, Matter 4 and Life 4 effect minimum possible adding time 5 and spirit 4 depending on how you want to describe it as working. Essentially allowing the chemical substance to transform the human into a vampire and acting as the embrace. Paradox can take care of the 16th...
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  • Bard's existed in 1st ed AD&D. They were tucked into the back of The Players Handbook on page 117 of the 6th printing 1980.

    I kind of figured Justin's vision of VtM would be along these lines, so I am not surprised that the Sabbat guide gives me no reason to reconsider my position on Paradox products....
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  • Their eyes would be visible you mean. I mean if you go through all of that trouble for the boat, how would you not have Lasombra suits for the crew?...
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  • Remember that Lower gen vampires are already immune to dominate from higher gen vamps in pre-V5 vampire (the real reason Tremere lower their gen with path of blood).

    The amount of house ruling to approximate VD universe would be kind of insane. Daylight rings for days!

    Clan-less games are easy since caitiff is already a thing.
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  • Not a fan of touchstones in any form, but I can see how they could be useful if you wanted to run a very specific type of game. I just have no interest in that type of game at all.


    It's more like swapping out everything except the lower register of a full auto AR15 and then changing the trigger out for a semi-auto only one. And then filing 1/2 the serial number off. There are far more differences than similarities in the two and VtR's 8+ standard difficulty vs VtM 6+ standard is a very noticeable change. Also VtR is considered CofD not WoD.



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