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  • Honourable accord works well for literally everyone except the Baali (Oh yes sir, I can't lie to you, I am indeed of that evil line.... wait I'm a good one on honourable... no, please no!! )

    Path of Power and the inner voice is a joke path. It's great comedy and good for making fun of certain kinds of people but not something you want if you plan to live. Among Lasombra there's probably more on HA than PPIV, but PPIV is more bombastic and outlandish. It's like... there's a lot more shy conservatives than fascist ethno-nationalists out there, but the latter certainly try harder to...
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  • Ugh, Another Pagan Anarch fan. I get it, I do, but no. The Sabbat are Catholic, The Camarilla are Secular (secret cults nonwithstanding), and the Anarchs are religious freedom. Anarchs may have Noddists,Bahari, Antideluvian/methuselah worshippers, Gehenna cultists, new age cults, old religion faiths, infernalism, the religious idea that the kindred condition is purely answerable by science... and so on and so forth. You can even have schisms between these fellows; two bahari cults may see eachother as dangerous and vile heretics spreading false dogma.

    In a city with no Camarilla,...
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  • A potential enemy a thousand miles away is a lot better than a potential enemy at your doorstep. The Streltsys, Praetorian guard, Janissaries... they were all effective, for a time, but they all went to shit; Assamites are even stronger than them, and the Camarilla as an organization is weaker than these old empires; It won't take long for things to go absolutely terribly....
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  • 1 How do Assamites conduct magic? Inconsistently! Half of them might appear to work noble high magics, working with the stars for power and such, but more of them make covenants with spirits and get high on drugs to do so. Their lack of organization is the reason why the Tremere have more paths and rituals available to them despite being 4000 years younger.

    2: Would you invite a known or suspected mass murderer into your house? Oh he might not be a pure psychopath, he might just have an inflated ego and some extreme political views... that don't align with yours. You can trust...
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  • Aren't you supposed to be making a case for the Lasombra? Why would the well established members of the nuCam want such an unstable element?

    The terms for joining the Camarilla are what you'd accept in a defeat. It's almost like the cam want to give the most rediculous demands just because they know the Lasombra wouldn't take them. The Lasombra's clan organization literally boils down to one thing: protecting the brand. Why would such image focused characters absolutely shit the bed on their reputation and sign up to a humiliating surrender? It's completely out of character...
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  • MyWifeIsScary
    replied to [V5] The Sabbat in V5
    I take the middle path

    Humanity is there to encourage a happy place. On one hand it's there among other things to discourage you from slaughtering your way through your problems like a bunch of DnD terrorists. On the otherhand, you're basically never going to become a wight unless you try for it or the ST straddles you with addiction and derangements like meglomania (note, I'm not especially familiar with 1e, so perhaps humanity rules are more brutal there than the later games I'm thinking of) MRH in an interview linked recently stated he would give players humanity back but didn't...
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  • MyWifeIsScary
    replied to [V5] The Sabbat in V5
    I think you absolutely need the fear of Vicissitude so that you can avoid questions like "Surely some tzmisce should like the Camarilla" or "Why hasn't the Camarilla employed fleshcrafters to help with the masquerade". You can only really answer this with a fuckton of prejudice .

    So V5 making Vicissitude a mere Protean amalgam? Well that prejudice is very quickly countered as the unknown has become known....
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  • MyWifeIsScary
    replied to [V5] The Sabbat in V5
    Asakku just strike me as a weird variety of vampire Formor. I really like the whole "vicissitude is evil" shtick as propaganda and paranoia but not in actuality....
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  • You've done quite well into going why someone might want to do something, but you haven't really adressed the why not. For example, I want a new computer, the one I use now works, but it's got a long list of issues being a 7 year old piece of hardware that's taken a few hits. No matter how much I justify my want for a new computer, no matter how much I go into the details of how I could use an upgrade, I can't justify it with the money I make, and the ScaryWife that holds me hostage is going to be less than impressed. send help.

    The Banu Haquim are the last group of vampires you...
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  • Well this could be really good....
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  • MyWifeIsScary
    replied to [V5] The Sabbat in V5
    I think it's pretty sad people are thinking one of these are going to be the GoF, the most Garou Garou to have ever Garou'd, it just shows how devastated they are by V5. From a purely in universe perspective, the likeliest answers are the RT, CoG, GW... perhaps the wendigo or BG...
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  • I don't know much about musical theory, I can't articulate a long essay on why I prefer X song to Y song, and I'm not particularly interested in doing that, I only vaguely have an idea of what a time signature is and that there's something called an octave, but I do know I like X song more than Y song. Just because I don't talk about it doesn't mean that I can't recognize a vastly better product. Music, like literature, has a lot of subjectivity to it, there's a lot of reasons why people can like or dislike the band Tool, There's no reason to like the tone-deaf mashups my spendthrift dorm mate...
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  • The -most benefits least drawbacks- plot is thus:

    The Gangrel stay a main member of the Cam because of course they do. You can still play Anarch/Autuark gangrel this way
    Ur Shulgi wakes up and causes the schism, but the Cam aren't keen on wholesale adopting Assamites so the storyteller is free to do what they want with them on a city-by-city/game-by-game basis.
    The part where Ravnos wakes up? Didn't happen. Or it was chimistry, Or perhaps the Ravnos bounced back. I don't know enough about the rest of the week of nightmares to put forth an informed opinion.
    Augustus...
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  • MyWifeIsScary
    replied to [V5] The Sabbat in V5
    Roads were cooler.

    There's nothing inhuman about inhumanity. We're fragile things and we'll cling to crazy. There's no shortage of real life examples. People will kill in the name of pacifism. The Sabbat weren't really that far gone. It's what happens when the nutters have power that's interesting, taking the power away from the Sabbat consequently makes things less interesting....
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  • Healing yourself of a stroke would be really difficult mid-stroke.

    In seriousness I do think mortal thaumaturges will be able to prolong their lives and improve their health and capabilities, but they're probably not going to learn how to do that early on....
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  • Nah really the more I think about it the more I agree that METAPLOT IS DUMB. Like any metaplot. Good metaplot, bad metaplot. Wouldn't matter if Tremere got his perfect comeuppance or if the Anarchs unanimously became lilth worshippers and then used the power of friendship to strap the antideluvians on ICBMs heading for the sun. I don't mind the self-contained struggles of the vampire population in ST Petersburg because I can happily ignore it and nobody's going to tell me my game is wrong over an enjoyable read, but reads become significantly less enjoyable when suddenly they undermine the storyteller...
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  • Thus we obviously must go back to 1st edition. Like legitimately.

    A Beast I am Lest a Beast I become
    Morality is chosen, not Ordained.
    The Cam international.
    It consists primarily of Tremere, Toreador, Ventrue, Nosferatu, Brujah, Gangrel and Malkavian.
    Diablerie is a natural part of the vampire state
    The Inconnu are actually maybe a thing
    Becoming human again is possible!
    Racism
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  • It makes sense for the Sabbat to hold territories because sometimes they're going to, y'know, win. They were never depicted as equal sects, with Sabbat presence really only in the new world and a bit of Australia. VTM can't be like a TV show where the end of every episode has some bullshit that absolutely ensures the status quo remains the way it is. The Sabbat were an effective force and they are inherrently better organized than anarchs, yet V5 wants the two factions to swap places because... they like one more than the other?...
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  • I really think that's just you failing to separate yourself from your characters....
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  • Requiem is a different kettle of the fish. There's a tacit understanding that the supernatural exist and the masquerade isn't a top priority. There's a lot more suspension of disbelief because, y'know, shadowy predators with huge disparity in power and limited resources are agreeing to use a multi-party system in their government?

    I for one, like it when worldbuilding is taken seriously....
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