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  • I have just to quote you for +1 your post and thanking you. This is one of the lists of how usefull Thaumaturgy Paths are, that I searched for a long time....
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  • About having like Coldunism Thaumathurgy nor Necromancy as an inclan disciple would be okay with. Because the in clan disciple only saves them until lvl 5 but all those secondary paths are always costing the same cheap price no matter of inclan, outclan or being a caitiff. So if we go to those Blood Magic Disciples are outclan that make space for another disciple that goes up to 10 and would profit more if you are a low generation clan vampire.
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  • This whas even said in a V20 sourcebook of how those rare non Giovanni Family embraces are happening.
    Well in one of my DA20 chronicles it has happened that an Autarkis Caitiff Elder did something to recover from his power loosing with the migration period because it whas from his perspective more important to save time and get stronger faster to be secured when some other cainite decide to just us him and his child as a stepladder to greater power. Well the plan worked and he secured a half dozen cainite knights to get an upstart power while later having ghouls as squires that get knighted...
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  • Koronus
    started a topic W20 M20 Spirit AI Personal Assistans.

    W20 M20 Spirit AI Personal Assistans.

    In my new round, the Glasswalkercouple from my players had a new idea to fight the wyrm inspired from their grandparents, who are a kinfolk couple of Virtual Adepts. Because the Grandparents had created an AI as a familiar the Glass Walkers want to try to do this on big scale with spirits to have for one thing a secure devise for use with the garou, for two being able to state the corporal and spiritual wellbeing of a person and for three to expire any wyrm corruption with it and so help for one to clear the nation of the corruption and mayby bring it to the mass marcet. With it they would be...
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  • I have to apologize. I made a fail on my language skill and so did not understand something correct....
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  • That is not true, there are some wunderkinder from the Tremere, that can learn Thaumaturgy as an autodidakt. Though those are the exception then the rule....
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  • As I started with M20 where the new names are already portrayed (and in my round we have japanese who plays an Akashaya that is the reincarnation from Ina Honda, the daughter of the great warrior Tadakatsu)
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  • Well there they protested, that it is to visitable and clearly is to high tech for terrorists. So it would have been much better if they would have went with either LKW or airplanes loaded with dynamite and blowed them up there. My other problem is, that they said it whas ISIS. The IS where no big deal then. Al'quaida would have been way more believable and I still hope, that they will retcon that like that vampires made a gay massacer just for having experimental material....
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  • I part of agree. I met once a guy saying both bible and japanese origin myth are correct because the japanese people are not really humans, they are just the mythological elfs that made their asylum here and most of them decided to cover themselves as humans to avoid that the humans go up against them while theyself know that they are as elfes are so much better.

    Anyway back to topic I think that the different vampire myths should be covered in the game and I would really love it, if not everyone is just a cainit but they are really different like the Wan Gui.

    Other thing,...
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  • I thought about mayby like with the wind carries the news he can have it work like hight senses but to manually decide where or who he is going to keep exactly or when if he do not want sense overload.
    Or alternative you get the news but not immedeataly but more like mayby a szene later because it needs time to travel the message and only descriptions so that you know that mayby 10 minutes ago there have been a group of cainites in the wood of eg Judenburg where one smells like Gangrel but as a counter you can get at least all the travelmessages from up to last night?

    I only...
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  • Here is something that I created for a Methusalem.

    Craina of Noricum
    This Craina is about the heartbeat of the land long before it whas called styria. While the austrians call it the green heart of Austria because of all the forrests there, few have an idea how true the description is because only few can really listen to the beat of it.


    * Pulse of Information
    While the many mountains blockade the sight the wind whispers all the information that is needed.
    (This power works like Burebistas throne)

    ** Mur's Mist
    The Mur is one...
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  • Well from V20 it is in absolute barrier if they do not break caines curse of the weakening generations with golconda. So as I said before you could be with golconda everything from 4-16 and still reach lvl 10....
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  • Well Golconda makes it RAW possible to reach this too because it unrestrict the artificial generation weakening of Caine. Though some things like thin blood or how much blood you can handle are not getting higher with it but Golconda allows technically to have a generation 16 Vampire to have disciple ratings as high as any ante.

    About Legendre said, that is in for example at those 4 I listed
    Ciara 1. She whas a mastertalent at Coldunic Sorcery and the first one in an uninteressting domain so she had enough time to make her to the lady of the land.
    2. Because when the area...
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  • As with his old age 9 though it could theoretically even be 10. Why do you want to know?...
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  • I have four of those and I hope my description will help you.
    All of them are except the last one over 4000 years old

    1. Ciara Karnstein
    She is an Old Clan Tzimisce of the 4th Generation in Styria. She lived and stayed there since long time and so do not care which foolish mortal now thinks he the actual ruler because she knows from her connection with the land, that she is the true one. She is polite and hospital like other ancient Tzimisce as long as you are neither Sabbat or one of those arrogant foolish tremere. Those of the Sabbat are given when entering one warning...
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  • Because my english skill failed so I have no idea who has now feelings to whom I just quoute W20. True Love is always mutual. If the target of True Love is another PC (s)he has to take True Love too because True Love can never be one sided. That is why differ between True Love and genuine love. True Love is this fairytale like setting where the couple loves each other the most of the world and so would do anything for eachother and do not care where they are as long they are together and where the love never ends because they always fell anew in love.
    And genuine Love where you honestly...
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  • Agree it is rare. Not without reason it is said that it can be a way to reach Golconda because it is so fucking rare even more in the World of Darkness. And I remembered reading it in the V20 rulebook.

    Except True Love. Because True Love (with the help of very high Willpower) can help you break yourself a blood bond because this artificial created love which can be easily misused is nothing against the True Love.


    Yeah this together what you said before, can let it help you to keep genuine love with a partner blood bound to keep alive.

    I kind of disagree....
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  • It whas only normal love, not true love. True love is so rare that some think it is a (possible) requirement for Golconda. True Love is something that overcomes the ages though I think it whas said, that it is something only between two people. So having two sisters/friends etc falling in love with the same guy and the guy cares for both then it is only ordinary but not TRUE love....
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  • It is said that the mutual blood bond is in most cases like a marriage vow to make two vampires keep any feeling to each other but some are reluctant to do it because it can happen that after centuries your love will turn into hate so it will end up like Mr. and Mrs. Smith but without good ending.

    From my opinion it is a good thing because it keeps you to a person you have good feeling and ensure you some sort of trust because it is like Maoyuu Maou Yuusha where a marriage is giving the other person each other your own right. Another positiv effect is, that you can not without nothing...
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  • Thank you Gangrel and Cynic. Your last posts here are very helpfull.
    And I think I will handle it myself, that Golconda even protects from and clears any existing Thirst of Ages.
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    Last edited by Koronus; 06-26-2020, 06:53 AM.

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