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  • I think Horizon thinks that if you use vulgar magic in front of many witnesses the magic fails automatically....
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  • Vienna got a By Night Book during the German own Productions.
    I would say either Linz as it is the backturf of Karl Schrekt and the new Capital of the House Tremere or Salzburg the second most important city of Austria and another one with international importance.
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  • I have sadly to agree her. With all these messy crits I am really horrifyed. Problem is it too effective. It really makes me unconfortable playing near humans. Which is a problem because with new feeding restrictions I can not really stay in wildnis and even if I can, it really affects the game I could play....
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  • But it is not. We are playing Masquerade not Requiem. If we want to play in a system where the power ceiling is not artificially constricted we would be at Requim. It is one of the biggest fundaments of Masquerade, that who sired you defined how powerfull you are.
    Because it made clear for one thing, that those beyond you always look for a sign of weakness and if you have the "luck" by being sired from a low gen cainite it ment that you REALLY need to look out from the elder because an older more powerfull cainite is mayby seeing you as a thing to gain power so you could easily...
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    Last edited by Koronus; 05-04-2021, 07:07 PM.

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  • As I said before, V5 whas written from the ingame point, that all the elders are gone and it is just you and all the other fledgelings and Neonates that now shell protect the territory.
    For example if your blood power is to high you can not feed from anything more then humans. If we go to the roman empire or even the dark ages there are still a lot of low generation vampires that would depend on humans or starve from their rules. Theoretically you could learn animalism but until you learn it you need to stay close to humanity and so Gangrels that just turn to the wild would be impossible....
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  • Chris24601 "And the V20 Dhampir does show the other way to make Fortitude viable (in the boring but practical sense) stop making everything that isn’t an outright bane deal agg damage. If it’s not sunlight, fire or true faith then it’s only lethal and can be soaked as such."
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  • Yeah because the players where unhappy, that WotC made 4th Edition like a Videogame and with the Open Game Licence the people took the evolution of their favourite edition

    Another advantage of PF whas, that it whas unlike D&D 4 available in other languages....
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  • Did we read different rules or since when is Sunlight doing damage for Dhampires? Should Dhampires main advantage not be, they can walk at day like a normal mortal despite being not a mortal?...
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  • "24. Humorous as #23 might be from a black comedy perspective, literally thousands of people are checking out his claims on the internet now and it has brought a massive amount of attention online. The PCs need a scapegoat or to shut the place down."

    Actually we had excactly this in our Mage round once and to make it even better it whas from a new ST that came from VtM because our ST wanted to play for some time and the ST where surprised because he actually solved our problems because we had just planed from last session how can uncover a child traffic ring without to much...
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  • That is why I am big fan of the optional rule that beside Road of Humanity, Road of Enlightenment, those religious roades and Road of the Kings with his subroades should eligable for Golconda too.
    Because this shows that there can be more than one good moral system. That is one of the biggest flaws in my opinion from Modern Nights VTM and that DAV20 did not took over the optional rule.
    The problem is in my opinion that modern paths of Enlightenment are automatically evil.
    Where DA Knight Path is, that you are a protector of the weak is modern Knight path, that your are a professional...
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  • I would say the likeliest is the Cam Tremere Houses against House Impsissimus. Because from the few parts I have on them in the Anarch book they are willing to go far and deep for magical knowledge like "Progress justify any mean" and they are heavyly against any of the three because in their eyes only try to brainwash people to be loyal mindslaves again.
    It is said that there is a "fight" for Vienna too.
    But honestly the whole Tremere story seems in V5 to me that they want to make it clear, that the three cam houses are not evil (anymore) and the anarchs are bad...
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  • Small update. Rites of the Dragon where translated back then too.
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  • Depend on what V5.5 should actually be?
    V20 rules with lore from V5?
    Yes please. Because as Phipps has shown many things from the lore change where already part of revised or V20.

    v5.5 just being V5 with some big flaws like low gen vampires has not automatically to feed from other vampires or do a big mess then I think a new Edition would be better.
    Because yesterday in the night when I read through the STV Rom book I recocnized what whas my biggest flaw for the blood power system. It is actually an inuniverse contradiction comming up from the idea, that every vampire...
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  • Koronus
    replied to M20 Books for the future?
    First of all I would love to get the M20 that are already teased in the core book to get translated to german too.
    Then I would agree an orphan book would make much sense because M20 has the orphans predestinated for being Orphan as a starter.
    Then I do not know if they already have it but a detailed book about familiars I would love.
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  • The talk about the blood getting thicker actually means that Thin-Bloods will now have a guarenteed sucess during the embrace, it just takes longer and that Ghouls can learn higher disciples from donors that had before a to high generation.
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  • Yes it whas Sweden and the Technocracy tried to stop that because they wanted to keep this superstitious people that all have still their nonsense believing in god out of Sweden which whas fine from the rational technocratic worldsight before and they want to stay it the same instead of having their to fight superstition again that will appear both in the refugees and the afraid swedens.

    Nope 16th Gen is Embrace too.
    Dhampir is created by procreation that can happen from 15th and 16th generation having sex.
    14th Gens are normally embraced unless the 13th Gen is a Thinblood....
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    Last edited by Koronus; 04-25-2021, 01:00 PM.

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  • Yeah honestly this is the reason why I always found that 1:100.000 is to less. From my opinion the rate should be more 1:10.000.
    As an example the famous Gary near Chicago would have with 1:100.000 not even one Cainite. But with 1:10.000 it would fit with being space for 8 Cainites.
    Or my famous Vienna would have with official rate only 28 vampires but with correction it would be with 280 more fitting for the capital of the Tremere.

    Anyway for a street lvl campaing I would if you see Cainites on the street say it is either a Brujah leading a demonstration or Gangrel that...
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  • CTPhipps actually Animalism only allows you mearly to survive without feeding from humans but not that feeding from Animals is more effective then from humans like before.
    The Tier 3 power only unlocks for Ancilla from 5-9. Generation what whas possible before by default before and makes it that Elder merely being able to survive without using blood while before it actually allowed you by feeding from animals not merely to survive but to flourish. Sorry but I am not convinced.
    This forced feels like having to play as a Humanity 9+ vampire which is for long not really funny.
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  • It is totally different. For example that with Blood Power 3 alone you can not get saturated by animals or blood conserves anymore is a BIG Retcon. For one it makes it impossible to play an ethical vampire that stays away from humans and it makes the Seagangrel impossible.
    The sea gangrel are Gangrels that are very old and stay away from the world exisiting in the deepest sea where no more light shines feeding from animals like whales.

    Then as it whas mentioned before you can not really do disciples anymore because of this constant hunger and potence is now costing and not just...
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  • Ah nope Remastering means the gameplay feels the same but it is only more resolution. For roleplay Books this means Hardcover instead of Softcover, Art and Book in Colour instead of B/W and Bugfixing. I think it means for RP Settings too, that the description is slightly improved too. So V20 is actually more Remaster then V5.
    I would say V5 is a Reboot where Setting and Gameplay are only vague the same and mostly only name stays the same.
    Btw I took the actual descriptions of Definitions from here:
    https://praxistipps.chip.de/remake-r...-sie-die-neuau...
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