So I posted this question on reddit while waiting for validation of my account here, so I am now transplanting this here in hopes of getting more opinions to help me make sense of this as it caused a lengthy argument at the table lol.

so we ran our first VTR game recently and ended up having a 30-45 min halt of game discussion about hunger frenzy, and our different ideas of how that should work. This is mostly between me and another setting veteran as the other two players are newbies.
The story attached is that my friend used his herd to get himself to 5 Vitae (which I'm fine...