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  • Not only the clan founders, i've read somewhere some of the law of the first Enoch from Cain itself, warning his descendants against werewolf (a piece of the Book of Nod maybe, can't remember)
    If Cain himself, the first Vampire, an undead god was afraid of them, it's for a damn good reason
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  • Cain Loup-Noir
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    Unfortunately no i haven't checked Exalted, why? Is there a special system for overpowered characters in it?
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  • Cain Loup-Noir
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    Of course, it's interesting to just find a way to weaken them. The fact is in my Vtm campaign my players choosed the "darkside" and are hunting lower generation vampire to steal their powers. They want to replace the clan founders x)

    It's a cool campaign and i just make them run after ghost, meeting new situation and people, somekind of eternal treasure hunting
    In my werewolf campaign they're trying to find the other ferae and create an alliance between all tribes and race to face the apocalypse and organise a last battle in malfea at the end of the world
    Ambitious...
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  • Cain Loup-Noir
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    For the "demigod" npc's just saying to my pc they can't do anything isn't fair to me, they should be able to react, and if they succed by a wise plan or a spectacular success then the game will take a very satisfying turn even if the purpose will certainly be running away.

    Problem is that the game system isn't set for godly characters, a vampire of the 3th generation can get to 10 in their stats, they could have Dex 10 + Brawl 10 + Celerity 10, once together around the table, roll 30 dice bits by bits will just slowing down the game
    It's been a while since i began...
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  • Cain Loup-Noir
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    Personnally i will set 3 values, 1 for each attributes and define the pool depending on which their better at, like physical 8 social 4 and mental 6
    You're right about precise their association, it's certainly usefull to easily recognise them when PC get interested in them...
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  • If my memory's correct a single werewolf (a silent strider) killed the founder of the setites clan, and before dying the vampire cursed him and his tribe to never be able to put a foot on their homeland again. Of course not all werewolves are capable of such a feat but even without talking about any gift a clan founder have some powers that very few can imagine, way more powerfull than blood cauldron, so they're certainly extremely resistant.
    In my opinion, yes, they totally can soak the damage of that power
    However as ST you can do wathever you want if it suits you for your story...
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  • In fact it may be a change between 2 edition, but in my v20 book in antagonist section, page 386 they state that a garou have 10 blood points in their veins, they are just very powerfull and count as double
    So 10 blood point drank give 20 vitae to the vampire who drink it. In that case 2 success to inflict 1 agg damage isn't right since it's just the power of the lupin's blood that double the benefits...
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  • Cain Loup-Noir
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    I understand that feeling, i can't stop myself thinking that every character are different so they should have various capacity... so various complete character sheet 'x)...
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  • Cain Loup-Noir
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    Well i was talking about random anemy, of course the important characters have a full sheet, but i was looking for a way to manage random npc's, the anonym victim or guards
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  • I agree with Asmodai, W20 is very clear about it, werewolves's stamina can soak every damage, including aggravated. The only exception is silver, some specific gifts and powers of other supernatural beings (like the level 9 chimestry Mayaparisatya) and their breed form. When the garou is a metis he keep all his ability including regen and soak in all their form, but they are never protected against silver and suffer a physical or psychological deformity.

    The point is that each game are made to be played without crossing with the other, so i understand your confusion about it. Plus...
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  • Thanks for the help guys ^^
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  • Cain Loup-Noir
    started a topic Blood Cauldron on werewolves

    Blood Cauldron on werewolves

    The real question us how blood cauldron is working when the target can soak agg damage?

    First hypothesis the blood is actually boiling but the body of the character, may be it a werewolf or a vampire with fortitude, resist the burn. However the victim still lose his blood. According to V20 a wounded character lose 1 blood point per health level checked, so a werewolf soaking the agg damage would just convert them into unsoakable lethal damage du to the blood loss like an hemorrhage

    Second hypothesis the blood is not boiling at all thanks to it's supernatural resistance,...
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  • Cain Loup-Noir
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    It's been a year since i began to masterize at the same time V20 and W20 and It's been reaaly difficult for me to find a way to manage my game, so thank Asmodai for the good trick.

    I'm still not out of troubles anyway, cause my player are a bit to imaginative, one of them play a tremere and asked if he could rip out or move the heart of a target with movement of the mind path and create ritual to put some effect of thaumaturgy and his discipline in his stuff (theft of vitae on a sword, Fortitude on his kevlar that kind of stuff)
    Those are interesting idea but it's a real pain...
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  • Cain Loup-Noir
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    I'm using V20 and W20 books, it get difficult to manage when some vampire npc use celerity while other not, so either I write down the pool I set or I use a complete character sheet for the moment, that's why I try to simplify things
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  • Cain Loup-Noir
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    Just physical, mental ans social? Well that's way simpler but at the same times imprecise, unless you mean assigning a pool in the moment and remembering it (or writing it) for the rest of the scene.
    And what about their health level if you just assign a pool?
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  • Cain Loup-Noir
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    How do you manage your npc?

    Do you have any advice on how to manage enemy ability?
    I use some exemple character sheet for few type of character but with all the powers available i can't fix something
    When i oppose npc to my friends i know their attributes and ability but i never know what powers give them. Vampires are the best exemple, their generation, their age and their clan there's too many variable to decide what kind of sheets i can create. I need 3 or 5 sheets but with all combination possible it's difficult to give them a set of powers
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  • One way to better define why you lose humanity is to understand what is the beast and what is his influence.
    As described the beast is an instinct of pure destruction, the animality of the vampire that devour him with time.

    So why are you losing humanity? When tou awake the beast or accept his influence you let it take over, so you become more a monster. But it also feed on you when you let your guard down, when you're feeling shame, sadness or whatever emotional combination that weakens your mind and allow the beast to force his grip on the character.

    So the beast...
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  • I suggest, if you want to go in that way, to create a special state when a character fall to humanity 0.
    The condition are up to the ST but when a character lose all humanity he has a (really small) chance to change into a pure evil being, but keep his mental ability
    You can imagine a Vampire so evil that he would do absolutly everything he want, like a dark version of golconda. You can describe that kind of character like a Devil coming straight from hell to destroy or dominate everything.

    That kind of absolute monster could be a perfect main antagonist for a story, or...
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    Last edited by Cain Loup-Noir; 06-23-2022, 06:40 PM.

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