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  • JimB
    replied to Movies
    I am mockingly accusing the movie of pretending at having a deep message which is actually superficial, nonsensical, and possibly dangerous....
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  • JimB
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    we live in a society, you know, like wow...
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  • JimB
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    It's probably beyond the scope of this thread, but given that the author was a failed politician with a documented history of racist policies and neo-Nazi dogwhistles masquerading as centrism, I think it is more likely the story arc was intended to show that even Nazis can be people of good conscience and we should just give everyone a chance....
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  • JimB
    replied to Consent in Gaming
    Yes. The tests will be administered at random by the Woke Police. Failure to comply with the test means all your books and dice will be confiscated. Failure to pass the test means the RPG Illuminati will make you vanish, and your friends will never speak your name again for fear of the same happening to them....
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  • JimB
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    Also, I just realized you're doing to Black Panther what you seem to take umbrage at us doing to your hypothetical D&D game: you're holding it accountable for its troubling origins....
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  • JimB
    replied to Consent in Gaming
    That's fine, but it's really dishonest and unfair to complain about things that aren't in it as if they are. I wish you wouldn't do that....
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  • JimB
    replied to Consent in Gaming
    Yeah, I'm gonna stop you there. You should really watch the movie before you criticize it to be sure the things you're complaining about are actually in it....
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  • JimB
    replied to Consent in Gaming
    You're missing a couple of factors here.

    First, not everyone is equally offended by things. Like, there are people who are fine with dwarves being Jewish or orcs being "the least lovely Mongol-types." If that's the kind of world you want to build (and I know you're not going there, but I'm using an extreme example to demonstrate a principle), then find people who want to play in that world and have fun with it. The only problem comes when you take that out to people who are not the target audience and act like we should like it... well, that and any prods you might feel...
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  • JimB
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    For the purposes of what I'm saying, where you get them from doesn't really matter. The point is, they come from your real world experiences, which are shaped by your perceptions, which therefore tells us something about who you are as a person. Like the saying goes, every painting is a self-portrait.

    That's not to say you're necessarily racist for your views on orcs, mind; or at least, no more racist than anyone who's been raised in this racist-ass culture is. HeavyArms already covered the racial implications of using this framework to delineate who's okay to hurt. I'm only saying...
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  • JimB
    replied to Consent in Gaming
    Imagination is nothing but memory divorced from context. Humans cannot imagine new things: we can only rearrange what we already know. Your cannibals come from somewhere....
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  • JimB
    replied to Consent in Gaming
    I may be being too literal here, but: if you say there are no underlying themes in your narrative, that only means you do not intend to have underlying themes in your narrative. Whether that's true depends on how you execute your intent AND how your execution is received; because fiction is a collaborative process between the writer and the reader, not an immaculate act of creation uninfluenced by the society you live in and the attitudes you marinade in....
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    Last edited by JimB; 09-18-2019, 04:28 AM. Reason: Cleaned up some grammar.

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  • JimB
    replied to Consent in Gaming
    My issue with the "in a fantasy context" argument is that it seems to suppose what happens in an imaginary context doesn't have to pass through the real minds of real people. I'm not talking about the DM's intent; I'm talking about the players' perceptions. An unreal thing gains a measure of reality when it is perceived by a real person, whether we're talking about imagination or empathy or paranoia or PTSD or any of the jillions of other permutations I'm excluding, so whether the DM treats it as a real thing is pretty much irrelevant to the experience of the person absorbing it....
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