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  • Why would there need to be "Autumn" tunnels? You get on i the right place.. or have portal passage and you're in the dreaming. It seems like everything you talk about would be covered by near dreaming stuff. Freeholds, trods. Just like there are natural shallowings into the umbra and Shadowlands. In the Dark the barriers between world fray.
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  • Doesn't the current prometheus chambers contain Doyen dna or was that only in 1e?...
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  • this just makes me want to move into the old chestnut of "genetic hybrid to keep our race alive" UFO story... but that could also be very Squicky......
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  • This seems pretty much what the Near Dreaming is for? The Tunnels being trods of various degrees of "safety" Known Mines being Freeholds that sort of thing. That would explain why no other supernatural is seeing much of the faries.
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  • No, Gundams and Valvraves are clearly Quantum Tech. But the idea of the majority of people are in giant floating colonies basically screams Gundam and Valvave


    hmmmmm I think I'm going to take this to a new thread....
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  • That's how you get Gundams.......
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  • Well as long as you don't end up traveling back in time you're good. Print on demand. PDFs mean old editions are not going away...
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  • Lian
    replied to Real Set and Set the Vampire
    Bygones and constructs may mitigate Paradox by having permanent Paradox Flaws along with regularly consuming magical energies. Generally paradox matches your paradigm. Technocratic feedback for example doesn't tend to lead to you turning stuff to glass with your touch but mental breakdown and illness.

    So lets look at Kindred.

    They regularly need to feed at least 1 quint per day.

    They take agg damage from sunlight.

    The Beast.

    Clan Flaws.

    The Day sleep.

    Kindred are perhaps not the best example for "not...
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  • Lian
    replied to Real Set and Set the Vampire
    My Etherite mage thought changelings and Fallen looked functionally the same and had all sorts of theories on it.... My Pooka knows that Dreams are contraditory and symbolic. That Lies are Truth....and that the level of Fae for effecting Fallen is the same as any other Gallain...

    But to get things back to Set.


    The Question isn't whether Set is a god. He is. People worship him. That's really all there is to it. The living Pharoahs of Egypt were gods. God is... fairly worthless denominator its been used for everything from Awesome King to three roads meeting. Its...
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  • Lian
    replied to Real Set and Set the Vampire
    Except Saulot calls this out in the Transylvania chronicles. There were people... Even potentially vampires who predate caine. Of course that might be a lie considering who "translates" the tablet. But given that and the stuff some of the laibon argue for in the JHD. The First Murderer may just be another stolen title by a Vampire who ran away from giving up his powers.

    OF course then we have Demon the Fallen going "No... he's really caine" but then you have the issue of whether they have just been shaped by consensus as well......
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  • People point out the Mage problem but honestly Mages have INTEREST in engaging with other Nightfolk. Vampires for example don't(and it probably violates the Masquerade/Silence of blood) for all the power difference even more you're going to need to justify "WHY" if you're running a straight crossover. Vampires don't care about ascension. Werewolves don't care about Vampire politics. Wraiths can barely interact with the physical plane. There are some splats that engage outside their standard setup.. but they aren't particularly common there's no "Genetic WOD" plot... For all...
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  • Lian
    replied to Fae Languages
    Honestly I was more thinking use of obscure or cant languages for Kithain interacting in the Autumn world. That's really what most cants come from trying to pass stuff infront of the normies....
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  • Lian
    replied to Fae Languages
    I prefer to include semi forgotten Real world languages.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polari

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esperanto


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l117wfB0g3o Whistle or Bird Tongue has gotten a lot of play with our Pooka...
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  • Lian
    replied to Real Set and Set the Vampire
    The problem with the "Easiest' solution is we end up with Human mythology becoming more and more accurate as time goes on.(This actually a major issue with alot of V:TM) One would think that over time mythology would Drift from the war rather than having Set become less the honorable warrior king as time passes. On the other hand the capacity of memories to drift especially when its more convienent is something humans are prone to.......
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  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFuMpYTyRjw

    This is the real problem its not just "Who can win in combat" its.. a khan will have half a dozen tricks that Ghoul won't have. A khan could also go into the umbra(Either at appropriate level or by merit) can buy up a between 3 and 8 gifts for the price a Ghoul buys up a single discipline. This is the most extreme example.. but Even a full vampire vs Fera has the umbra, lack of versatility etc.. This is why I suggest going with what the books sugest Troup play. Engage in the story from different levels. A vampire game can also...
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  • But i honestly can't think of a character who wouldn't slot one side or the other? Maybe Shatterstar? Legion? Most Mutants fall into "Luck/probabiliy manipulators" "Psychics" and Supers. I mean there's even treated as some difference the firestarting ability of Jean Grey and the fire starting ability of Pyro. The Stepford cookoos even show the whole unified psychic powers that you can't get from nova powers period.
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  • There are two definitions of a Weaver spirit. There are spirits that serve cosmic order and those that are part of the One song. City parents are clearly Of Order but are still.. of Gaia? LIke how Grandfather Thunder haas many Wyrmish traits..
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  • I'd argue the three paths are broken up in X-men. Domino and and Longshot are clearly running on Talent or maybe higher level Paramorph tricks(as Might Scarlet witch!). Professor x doesn't rock megattributes and there seems to be a whole setup for psychics and psychics alone in x-men comics that others really don't play with. THE only character I think really requires multiple types of Mechanics.. might be... Legion? But his powers are all over the place.

    You just replace Inspiration with the x-gene and you've pretty much go it in one. Now if you want some sort of commonality of X...
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  • Run multiple interweaved chronicles rather than ONE BIG mix. That is to say Run a vampire game. Its actions effect other games and vice versa. There may be some crossover events but generally its a shared world.
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  • Lian
    replied to Natural Novas
    1e Superior mechanics DID look alot more like Daredevils with some cyberware than low stalwarts...
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