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  • TGUEIROS
    replied to Mining and the Threshold
    You reacted to someone saying "we're still mining on Earth" by saying "for how much longer?"

    What I'm saying is that depletion of mineral resources is not a current concern, even after all our extraction activity. We have centuries (if not millenia, once it becomes cost effective to prospect and mine the ocean floors) ahead of us on that matter. I would consider our civilization to have achieved a bittersweet victory if we can steer this ship long enough to experience depletion of our crust.

    There is no reason to assume that the First Age was as mining...
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  • TGUEIROS
    replied to Mining and the Threshold
    Indefinitely?

    Depending on what you're mining for, and with new technologies emerging all the time, we haven't even scratched the surface of Earth's potential.

    For example, a few months back it was revealed that Japan has discovered an island which has sands super rich in rare earths, enough to supply our high tech production needs for over 700 years, once they figure out how to properly mine it.

    The other day I read a brazillian government report on iron deposits, there were many mines expected to last another 150 years, that is with current technology extraction...
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  • If my experience with this is how it normally works, then no, you can't get the backer manuscripts, but yes you will get the backer pdf, if you order through BackerKit instead of supporting the campaign through Kickstarter.

    This happened to me with Changeling: The Lost 2e. I couldn't back the Kickstarter, but later made a pledge through BackerKit. I never got the preview manuscripts, but did get the backer pdf.
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  • I didn't know that it was going under revision, or paid any real attention as to how it compares to the other trees.

    I hope it doesn't get too downgraded, but we'll see!

    Thanks for the info!...
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  • That is true, I got a little mixed up with Petal-Strewn Pavane, which I was examining for Disengage and Rush while dancing.

    Though that doesn't change the essence of the actions, it only requires you to have another round of preparation, so the flurrying with the dance starts at R3.

    I will adjust the post for that....
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  • You know, ever since we first got the IMAs preview, and the talk that that happened about Fire Dragon and Steel Devil, that this sort of build keeps popping up in my head as the first DB I would like to play.

    I was rereading Fire Dragon Style, and the bit about it being trained along with dance caught my attention. I went to reread the Performance Charms and found Irresistible Whirlpool Diversion.

    How cool is that?

    JB - Get as high as possible Join Battle and channel all you can to your Offhand Charge.

    R1 - Activate Dual Slaying Stance.
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  • TGUEIROS
    replied to Alchemicals and 3E
    You do know that the Immaculate Styles have a specific history that does not exist in Autotochtonia, right?

    The IMAs were invented long after Autotochton's departure from Creation, while the other styles can be said to pre Exodus relics, the IMAs cannot.

    Still, this argument is a bit of a strawman, to the argument that "cannot permanently destroy spirits" is something that can be said os most Exalts, sans Solars, as has been discussed by the Devs.

    The power to put a permanent end to spirits is very rare, and not native to most Exalts, and even when...
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  • TGUEIROS
    replied to Alchemicals and 3E
    They are in Autotochtonia, where theres no Wood (hehe...) Element... Much less the Immaculate Wood Dragon Style....
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  • TGUEIROS
    replied to Lunars Preview!
    Not only that, but the Charm's spirit is that the item was obtained previously and somehow by the Lunar.

    If you keep using it to produce high Resource value things through Bureaucracy and Crafts and you don't have a commensurate Resource rating, and the story is not conducive of you being expanding your Resources behind the scenes, the Storyteller is justified in assuming you acquired debts either for the materials to create the item (if your Ability was Craft), or for the purchase/loan of the actual object (if you justified with Bureaucracy).

    If you are justifying with...
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  • TGUEIROS
    replied to Lunars Playtest
    This will be the last that I speak on this matter on this thread, because it is getting to a derail point.

    I'm not an expert on past editions, but I remember skimming through SMAs in the past, and I thought that before there were two levels of Sutras, and that Solars could access the first level.

    Now, we don't know at all how things will turn out this edition, but if what I remember is true, then your statement doesn't hold water, as it is something that historically Solars have had the ability to touch.

    Again, don't invest certainty on uncertain things so...
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  • TGUEIROS
    replied to Lunars Playtest
    Epimetheus

    Not really.

    It goes back to what I first stated. Sidereals will be better at SMAs, as they should be. Solar(oid)s will be better at MAs, as they have non-conditional Mastery for it. Also don't be so quick in assuming things about the Sutras.

    This is Vance on the matter, not so long ago:

    "A Solar martial artist can boast knowledge of all of Snake style, or blend powerful techniques from multiple styles, right out of character creation. They will be as devastatingly powerful in combat, generally speaking, as a Solar who's devoted...
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  • TGUEIROS
    replied to Lunars Playtest
    That is true, though the context of the argument was that of Sidereal vs Lunars, and one of the balance points mentioned was that of Sidereal mastery of MAs that should be counterbalanced by Lunar mastery of Sorcery.

    So the understanding of how the MA relationship of Sidereals and Solars works is tangential to the point being argued.

    So it was a triangulated argument.

    Understanding that Sidereals have a special relationship with MAs without necessarily overshadowing Solars helps understanding that Lunars can have a similar relationship with Sorcery.
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  • TGUEIROS
    replied to Lunars Playtest
    No, Mastery is not a binary state.

    And no it isn't stated that Sidereals have Mastery on all the time. It is stated they have esotheric methods to access Mastery. Which can be something like what DB IMAs do to avoid the Terrestrial keyword.

    I asked Vance on the Dev Thread, and, like I said, nothing is set in stone yet.

    From what I understood of his answer, he is trying to make the "esotheric method" into something cool.

    So it also goes to say that if they have to employ the "esotheric method" to access Mastery, they don't...
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  • TGUEIROS
    replied to Ask the Devs
    Thank you!...
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  • TGUEIROS
    replied to Ask the Devs
    Hello Robert Vance ,

    One thing that sometimes come up and is cause for contention is Sidereal's access to the Mastery effects of MAs (not necessarily SMAs, if those are going to get any Mastery at all, that is).

    We know that Solar and Abyssals (and I presume Infernals too, but not sure) have constant access to those effects.

    In my reading of the keyword, I understand that Sidereals have to go through some hoops to get access to them "through esoteric methods", like if they have the MA's Form Charm active, or whatever, but it is not accessible...
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  • TGUEIROS
    replied to Lunars Playtest
    What a silly argument.

    A particular Sidereal that does not take MA is no better at it than any mortal.

    Whats your point?

    Also Solars have access to Mastery 100%, while whether that is true or not for Sidereals is yet to be seen....
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  • TGUEIROS
    replied to Lunars Playtest
    Well yeah, Sidereals are peerless in Sidereal Martial Arts, as they should be, but in Martial Arts, Solars are right there on top, as they should be.
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  • You can take someone's form, after scarying them and then haunting their dreams. That is pretty awesome.

    Any Lunar infiltrator/spy/socialite would be wise to take this charm.
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  • A few Charms let the Lunar use situations as Intimacies, where people don't actually have them.

    Like that lets you declare an entity likes an object an if you use that object as an offering, that offer is like an Intimacy to the entity.

    Or the the one that lets you treat anyone belonging to the society you have an Intimacy towards as also having an Intimacy to an aspect of their culture.

    Or the one that lets you use innuendo to sow doubt and use that doubt as Intimacy for social leverage....
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  • TGUEIROS
    replied to Gay arranged marriages
    Well, I don't know if I read this in WFHW or if this is something I absorbed on the forums, but isn't particularly high breeding accompanied by a possibility of more pronounced elemental traits?

    Either way, is not something that I really thought about deeply and am as inclined to allow as to not allow that in games I run....
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