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  • Lundgren
    replied to How Would You Do D:TF?
    And that's why I think Christians have an easier time to mod DtF to something palatable for them, than for say pagans. Tossing out the idea that Lucifer would had, for example, manipulating a poor carpenter son into thinking he was the messiah, and say Lucifer just lie when he claims to be behind Christianity isn't much of a stretch.

    Tossing out the idea that all other religions are just Earth-bounds is quite a bigger step....
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  • Lundgren
    replied to [Dev Blog] The Lunar Exalted
    It uses the intimacy and social conflict system of Ex3 Not really mechanically integrated yet, but I tend to just approximate mechanics anyway....
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  • Lundgren
    replied to [Dev Blog] The Lunar Exalted
    That was a thought I got from this thread, on how to handle those "epic" and "mythological weighted" ones that spans lifetimes.

    Strong emotions carrying over from one exaltation to the next wouldn't be out of tune for Exalted, and it would be one way to handle it.

    I'm not that interested in those kind of stories myself. So I might go with an inherited intimacy (including the Bond) can at most be a minor, or that it can be at most one level less than in the previous life....
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  • Lundgren
    replied to [Dev Blog] The Lunar Exalted
    It can only infringe on someone's character, if they are not part of the process. Personally, as a ST/GM/Referee/Narrator/Whatyawannacallit I never let a player create a character without me present or having some other type of communication where we bounce things back and forth. So for me, it would come from what the player have expressed an interest in. I'm well aware not everyone do things that way.

    Considering I consider Phoenix Command to be a nifty little system, I'm also aware that I tend to not have the same frame of reference when it comes to how complicated something is....
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  • Lundgren
    replied to [Dev Blog] The Lunar Exalted
    That was why I mentioned police Partners




    If other intimacies can carry over as well, and I don't see any reason why a carried over intimacy has to be minor, it can be used for a lot of different scenarios.

    Solar Bond, minor -> "there is something familiar with that person; seems to be nice, I should probably introduce myself."

    Solar Bond, Defining; Love of my life, Defining -> Starts out madly in love. Which can be an uninterrupted epic love-story, or a very creepy stalker horror story.

    Solar Bond, minor;...
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  • Lundgren
    replied to [Dev Blog] The Lunar Exalted
    Yup. That sums it up quite well.

    The reason I say 2.5-ish is because I'm a lot closer to that canon. Ex3 canon is a few bridges too far at times....
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  • Lundgren
    replied to [Dev Blog] The Lunar Exalted
    Akumas, prisoners, and getting information from individuals researching exaltations?

    They knew at least how to trap the shards before bringing it up with the Deathlords, and if it had been that easy to change them, why didn't they do it earlier.

    As I see it, they figured it out before the jade prison was broken....
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  • Lundgren
    replied to [Dev Blog] The Lunar Exalted
    In 2nd ed, it was some form of wyld taint changing it from 5 to 3. I though that was stupid as well, possible even more so as it would mean the wyld managed to change all shards uniformly. I'm comparing Ex3 to my preference, not 2nd edition.


    If so, it would be another version of individual interaction making an uniform change.


    I think the second edition Silver Pact, with its oats and how they can challenge each other and then demand a task to be done, etc, being a group of loony extremist. Having almost everyone of the supposed most individualistic splat...
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  • Lundgren
    replied to [Dev Blog] The Lunar Exalted
    Going back to ideas don't mean making the same thing. But from quite a few discussions I have seen, it seems like it at times can be summed down to "2nd edition was 1st edition and then turning left; Ex3 is going back to 1st edition and then go right"


    Oh, I'm not on the wrong track. I like the track I'm on. However, it seems like I'm on another track

    Just a few points:

    * I like "mechanics as physics". Ex3 has too much of a narrative focus on the mechanics for my taste.

    * I like the "self searching missile...
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  • Lundgren
    replied to [Dev Blog] The Lunar Exalted
    Seems like there are plenty of contradicting opinions in the thread already

    I find 2ed and Ex3 being a bit like Wod and CofD. Both having a lot in common, but when looking beneath the surface they have a lot of differences. Some might like both, but then it is more often by different reasons. So trying to please both groups often pleases none.

    Ex3 seems to go back to ideas in first edition, and while I hadn't heard about Exalted until just under six years ago, I have the impression that quite a few of those changes from 1ed to 2ed were because quite a few had issues...
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  • Lundgren
    replied to [Dev Blog] The Lunar Exalted
    Well, as I've mentioned a few times before, I only buy Ex3 to poach things for my 2.5-ish setting. I guess my interpretation/hack of the setting isn't closer to 2.5 than what Ex3 is, but Ex3 seems to be taking Exalted in a 90 degrees angle from where I'm personally takes things, so 2.5 is still closer to what I want than Ex3.

    So personally I feel the discussion should mainly be held by people wanting to play Ex3 and like the general direction it is taking, and any discussion about what I feel about changes should mainly be held in some other thread

    Hm... Maybe I should...
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  • Lundgren
    replied to [Dev Blog] The Lunar Exalted
    Well, to not derail the thread more, I accept that as an answer and backs out....
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  • Lundgren
    replied to [Dev Blog] The Lunar Exalted
    I'm reading him as saying that the Solar Bond are supposed to be both positive and negative in Ex3, yes. I'm reading his rational for this is to also support those stories, yes.

    My comment is, both stories around positive and negative emotions spanning lifetimes is supported under the current intimacy system; which earlier editions didn't really handled mechanical wise (and probably neither very well fluff wise). For example, I personally don't see Lilith to have a negative Solar Bond. I see her having a pile of other negative intimacies toward Desus' Exaltation and things he represented....
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  • Lundgren
    replied to [Dev Blog] The Lunar Exalted
    But isn't that just a strong "normal/standard" intimacy carrying over between exaltations? If that is part of the Solar bond, then wouldn't it actually limit those stories to only Lunars toward one Solar (well, and Infernals if the "no mind-whipe" still stands)?

    I'm curious, what is the in-game rational for those eternal grudges being part of the bond?...
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  • Lundgren
    replied to [Dev Blog] The Lunar Exalted
    That sounds like an odd design choice to me considering the plan to not being mandatory, to have it represented as an intimacy, and a character can have multiple intimacies.

    Personally, I ran with it as always being a positive intimacy (but can be a minor); but the Lunar can also have other intimacies toward the Solar and those can be both negative and stronger. But that's me....
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  • Lundgren
    replied to Tracking player essence
    I made this sheet for the player of my 2.5ish game to place different colored beads for personal essence, peripheral essence, current peripheral essence toward anima, and damage; and poker markers for Willpower and Virtues.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1usz...ew?usp=sharing
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  • Lundgren
    replied to Exalted and the origins of power
    Well, just looking at it as a number game, the ratio of "common people" to kings and warlords are quite high. So unless already being able to command people are a criteria for how they are chosen, it is only natural most of them are not.

    Then, if at least part of the criteria is that they have to do something that is, or is perceived to be, a personal risk; most kings and warlords tend to put others than themselves in harms way. If it is to endure or refuse to conform, well, neither of those tend to be what those in power tend to actually do. Now I don't remember which real...
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  • Lundgren
    replied to Traditional gender roles in the realm.
    Really? Why not a "men are irrelevant for advancement" sleeping with women to the top. Ex3 rewrites quite a bit already, and it shouldn't be too hard to rewrite her in a way that don't makes her fall into the "man-hating lesbian" trope....
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