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  • Honestly, overall I was expecting a bit of sour grapes by design with V5. Simply too many factours that contribute to it. The time gap involved, new companies and writers, the portion of the CWoD fanbase that is still bitter about the end of White Wolf and the start of Onyx Path, the changes that were coming. It was inevitable given the nature of fanbases.
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  • TyrannicalRabbit
    replied to Body Horror
    Deceived from Mummy comes to mind. Though my go to once it's out is definitely going to be Deviant for Cronenbergian goodness.
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  • On a small side note, and it's been ages since I kept up with the WoD lore but iirc the Children of Osiris, or at least the original bloodline members are not vampires anymore.
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  • TyrannicalRabbit
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    I think the point of contention/contrast for some people is that having other sorts of attempts at the Rite of Return,etc makes sense as material for the game line. But there is a contingent of people that seem to push that inclusion in the direction of harming some of the core themes of Mummy with how they want to include non Iremite style mummies. It's a small difference, but an important one.
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  • Everything is political in the sense of what the old adage "The personal is political." means. People making scenes doesn't change that or even refute that notion merely by being being vaguely tangential.

    After that all someone is left with is making a caricature of a position for the sake of disingenuous argument.

    On a separate note, the comparison of less than a handful of sensationalist opinions on White Wolf/V5 and the D&D fallout of the Satanic Panic is a little suspect and not something of any serious comparison at this point....
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  • I mean Cifer is not wrong. It's just that it's a separate thought from the issue of people casting wide, inaccurate aspersions on a game company and the people trying to use that as an excuse to delegitimize non sensationalist misgivings out of some desperate search for political boogiemen. But that aside, they are still correct. Particularly on the matter that so called neutrality on it, as a call to maintain status quo is itself a political stance....
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  • TyrannicalRabbit
    replied to It's coming!
    Can't believe I didn't think of it earlier but one thing I hope gets updated, improved, touched on more,etc is death curses. They felt a little up and down and wonky in 1e.
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  • I'm actually referring to the reality that "the personal is political." but uh...yeah, that's nice, I guess....
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  • TyrannicalRabbit
    replied to You Know What I Hate MK I
    ...And the League of Legends reddit community, in a completely unsurprising move, has decided the best way to show people that they are not sexist, hate speech spewing "manbabies" as one Rioter put it on twitter. By.......................drum roll please....being sexist, hate speech spewing manbabies. I am shocked i tell you, shocked.
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  • I was in the twitch chat in fact....
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  • ^And as we can see, the example I was mentioning does us the courtesy of revealing itself with haste and in spectacularly self immolating fashion.

    It should be particularly noted that this is part of where healthy skepticism comes into play. Part of what we see in this situation is spurious arguments that turn into variations on, "Such and such person made a wild claim, there for any worries or criticisms of material must be dismissed as (insert arguments that people are "overly sensitive these days",etc)."

    By the same merits that any writer, or really...
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  • TyrannicalRabbit
    replied to It's coming!
    Glad to have you on the writing team....
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  • I imagine a significant part of the problem is signal to noise ratio. People latch on to one derpy outspoken person's outrage or perceived outrage and run with it. This is not helped by the fact there is practically an entire right wing industry devoted to looking for any instances of that and using it as rhetoric to drum up the hate machine and disenfranchise people. And while these things should not be ignored completely, because if you do that you end up indirectly helping that sort of awfulness grow, but people need to have cautious skepticism whenever certain groups bring these sort of things...
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  • False dichotomy. There is no real "leave the politics out." Particularly when it involves a game world that is a mirrored version of the real world....
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  • I mean, it was as you mentioned, never a valid concern anyway. So I imagine that the book wont even waste overdue time on the subject. Particular since I bet cults will do a surprising amount of things potentially in some of these organizations as far as Mummies go....
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