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  • In my chronicles, Lupines are Garou. That they are called Lupines instead of Garou is no different then why English speaking people call the people east of the Rhine "Germans" instead of "Deutsch" while French speaking people call them "Allemand." It's just their term for werewolves.

    I am fine with vampires fearing the wilderness because of Lupines. But I think it is fear not because it is total and complete insta-kill. It is fear because destruction/attacks seem random and unpredictable. It is like a very high crime rate neighborhood with no police...
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  • Black Fox
    replied to High Appearance
    Appearance simply means the person is extremely good at first impressions, being attractive, and able to allure/entice people. Actual physical appearance is a huge part of this, but it is not the only thing that comprises the Appearance trait. The 20th editions even explicitly state it covers posture, body language, and unconscious expressions. It is the social roll you use before actual social interaction occurs - it is when people are assessing you solely on how you seem before talking to you.

    I like the previous poster who compared it to Photoshop eliminating everything that...
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  • I know the difference between a Fetish and a Device. I was giving the OP examples for inspiration for whatever he wanted to do....
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  • The tribes themselves don't really change all that much through time just individual character concepts and how their kinfolk operate. I don't see all that much difference for Silver Fangs and Silent Striders.

    The tribe with the biggest change would be the Glass Walkers since they are the only ones who really change through passage of time and evolve to reflect human society. Several modern camps wouldn't exist yet and you can invent new ones that will briefly flourish for a few decades.

    Weaver-Tech in the current setting is usually just current near-future sci-fi concepts....
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  • Black Fox
    replied to Pure Breed Problem
    In a table top game this is fine since the ST populates the entire rest of the world and can make it look like it is in canon (or their version of it).

    In online games and big LARPs, being laissez faire on character creation will quickly get you a chronicle of homid Red Talons, at least five White Howlers, a Croatan, Bone Gnawers who are really lost Silver Fang princesses, a redeemed Black Spiral Dancer, and twenty lupus Stargazers as your standard sept. Many PCs want their character to be special, but most players hate playing in a game where everyone is a unique snowflake (regardless...
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    Last edited by Black Fox; 08-19-2017, 02:29 PM.

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  • Black Fox
    replied to [W20] Docile and Ragabash
    Ragabash, since they start with only one Rage, can more easily deal with human society since the Curse affects them minimally. So yes, if one wanted to live as a traditional housewife (or any other role among the Flock) they could do so.

    Garou with higher Rage could also attempt to do so, but they would have increasing difficulty. Even someone with just two Rage (a starting Theurge or a Ragabash who has increased Rage) will have trouble with the Curse 10% of the time. However, if their immediate friends and family have high Willpower, and they keep to themselves and avoid social...
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  • Black Fox
    replied to Pure Breed Problem
    I've rarely seen Pure Breed used in table top. Even the players who pick SF tribe for their PC seems reluctant to give up precious build points on Pure Breed. Once they get to the more supernatural Backgrounds, most PCs prefer Totem (by far), Rites (especially for certain auspices), or even Ancestors or Fetish. They want to use their Background points and Freebies on other things. But everyone's game is different.

    The only place I see Pure Breed picked by many players is in LARP and Online roleplay because most social interaction there is with other PCs and not the ST plot or...
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  • A Treasure is a mortal item embued with Glamour. A Chimerical Item is a crafted or forged chimerical item.

    In Changeling 2nd Edition, page 288 there is a list of the kind of chimerical items that can be bought with Chimerical Item 5. The only rank 5 item is Magic Item (Art 5). So the first thing I would do is look at the various Art 5 descriptions and see what best fits a dueling saber.

    Chicanery 5 Captive Heart - change a person's behaviour
    Legderdemain 5 Phantom Shadows - create sentient illusions
    Primal 5 Elder Form - shapechange person
    Soothsay...
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  • I agree.

    At one point way, way, too long ago, I tried my best to identify the original Sumerian cities (Kish, Uruk, Ur, Eridu, Lagash, etc.) and the legendary god-kings (Enki, Uras, Jushur, Nanna, Enmerkar, Lugalbanda, etc.) who first ruled them and map to an appropriate Vampire clan so I'd have a list of 4th generation names for general lore and beginnings of lineages. The Sumerian Kings List which has kings reigning for hundreds or thousands of years is a great source for names of 4th and 5th generation vampires.

    Then knowing which clans came from which cities, I plotted...
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  • You already sound like you know the best mechanical defenses. Just include more silver weapons.

    As an ST I would be very reluctant allowing the kind of powers to be used against another supernatural group. It is just way too targeted and powerful. It also implies you have a lot of specific knowledge of Lupines just because (My character knows Lupines fuel their powers from two distinct supernatural energy sources, and that they can enter the spirit world, and that they have blood relatives who may give birth to more of them, and that the Spirits teach them additional powers, and...
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  • The Project Twilight groups don't actually know details of the various vampire Clans, Garou tribes, and the such. So any kind of COINTELPRO projects were probably directed against known organizations believed to be involved with, influenced by, or controlled by the supernatural. So agents ran into vampires, werewolves, etc. But it wasn't the SAD trying to infiltrate "Clan Brujah" or "Wendigo Tribe".

    This could be occult groups which the Tremere recruit their members from, Ventrue dominated businesses, Toreador controlled movie studios, the Putanesca crime family,...
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  • There are plenty of other Flood Myths that can be used. For the pre-Classical and Classical period, my default is to use the Flood of Deucalion, say the antedeluvian world was during the Age of Cronus, and imply vampirism is a result of the Titans devouring Zagreus (Dionysus) as explained in the Orphic mystery cults. Vampiric blood is a result of Dionysus' ichor that the Titans ate, and it is the blood of the gods flowing through vampires. That explains all the cool powers, but since the human body was not designed to hold the ichor of the gods, it has plenty of negatives. And any curses can...
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  • If there is a particular spirit associated with a single living creature (like a tree), then destroying the spirit (which requires more than just defeating - reduced to zero Essence simply means the spirit goes into Slumber) is supposed to eventually lead to the death to the creature. But it is not automatic.

    For a spirit associated with something not alive (like a lake) it is not going to die as it was never alive. But it would likely start showing some kind of damage. Its ecosystem begins to break down and certain species who live there might start dying off. It might start becoming...
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  • Black Fox
    replied to Homid in Lupus pack
    Are you talking about feral children who later become Garou and join lupus packs? Or young homid Garou who join lupus packs?

    If you are talking about feral children, you'll need to make some decisions. The very few feral children discovered have extreme disabilities as a result of lack of human exposure during their critical learning years. All the things you mentioned apply. But that will happen regardless of whether they get into a lupus pack. Of course, there is a lot of handwaving of how lupus are able to learn sufficient human skills soon after their own First Change, so...
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  • Black Fox
    replied to Penumbral Travel
    Penumbral travel is exactly the same speed as travelling in the Realm. Only if you use Moon Bridges to travel between caerns do you travel much quicker, and technically that is not travel through the penumbra as the apex of every Moon Bridge is in the Aetherial Realm.

    There might also be other kinds of Gifts or caern powers that allow faster travel. In first edition Werewolf corebook, it is mentioned that the caern totem Mera, who is a water spirit, allows Garou who spend a Gnosis to jump into one body of water in Central Park (her bawn) and instantly appear in any other body of...
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  • Black Fox
    replied to Could this work in V:TM?
    This sounds like an independent ghoul hoping to use the millionaire's resources to assist her in getting her own supply of blood.
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  • The experiments are causing various changes to the people so that their consciousness is expanding.
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  • Black Fox
    replied to Los Angeles in early VTM?
    The Anarch Free States were introduced quite early in the game's lore. It is mentioned in both the first Brujah Clanbook (1992) and the Anarch Cookbook (1993). I don't know if any products from 1991 mentioned them. I believe the Brujah Clanbook was released just prior to the 2e corebook.
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  • Black Fox
    started a topic looking for help on Bane plot

    looking for help on Bane plot

    I am looking for advice on a plot I intend to run. The scenario is a series of events where humans are having their senses or consciousness expanded as a result of various experiments (which they don't know are being done to them). To summarize the results of how these humans have/will changed.

    1) They experience synesthesia (the stimulation of one sense activates another sense, people who have it can "smell colors", "taste sounds," and the like.

    2) They get bonuses to the Enigmas ability.

    3) They are now immune to the Delerium. They...
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  • This is funny. I remember ancilla as beginning as 100 years. I know that is explicitly mentioned in Revised, and I am pretty sure it is in the 2nd edition book (but I don't have one to look it up).

    In my head canon I've always associated this with the idea that after a hundred years as a vampire, everyone you might have known while you were alive would now be dead, and thus your interactions with the mortal world would be different, and thus this was a good time to consider their role in vampire society to have transitioned.
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