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  • I think this is a very good question because I agree that there appears to be a big inconsistency here. The strong clan cultures don't seem to be consistent with other elements in the Sabbat.

    Having multi-clan packs, strong emphasis on the Vinculum, a hatred of the antedeluvians which is the basis of clan identity, mass embraces of people without distinction, and competing sources of allegiance (not just packs, but also the Paths of Enlightenment) are all elements that would undermine clan identity.

    However, I do think there are aspects by which clan identities would...
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    Last edited by Black Fox; 10-20-2018, 02:42 PM. Reason: corrected the name of the scenario mentioned

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  • I think all Paths (including Humanity) are artificial moral codes with one purpose - restraining the Beast. They are all about creating things in the mind of the vampire that they won't do so that there is some kind of control over the Beast. Of course, in order for them to work, they must be a consistent and coherent system of "ethics" - otherwise the Beast will know the vampire knows it's all BS and be able to take control anyway.

    Humanity is the default because human philosophy in general has generated some consistent moral codes that are broadly the same despite coming...
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  • Black Fox
    replied to Gifts: Scent Vs Sight
    Interesting. There are some things to keep in mind for what is actually written.

    Eyes of Cat gives you full details of normal sight, that Scent of Sight does not grant (it does not allow for color or fine details). That is not a distinction useful in a combat situation, but would be in other scenarios.

    Scent of Sight says "substitutes her sense of smell for her sense of vision" which implies that while the Gift is active, the Garou does not smell - she only sees. Again, this may or may not matter in certain scenarios. Probably not for combat. But for any...
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  • Black Fox
    started a topic Spirit Brood of the Triatic Wyrm

    Spirit Brood of the Triatic Wyrm

    Are there any listed Banes (with names and stats) allied to each of the Triatic Wyrms (Beast of War, Eater of Souls, and the Defiler Wyrm)?

    To organize antagonist factions, I've begun putting certain Banes together under Wyrm Incarna, and wondered if there was anything specific to the three Triatic Wyrms.
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  • Black Fox
    replied to No Maned Wolf fera?
    You're right. My mistake. I wanted to make the distinction between pouched mammals and placental mammals, and I botched the terms completely. Thanks for the correction....
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  • Black Fox
    replied to No Maned Wolf fera?
    My typical response to "can animal X be a shapechanger" is to ask is there indigenous folklore that establishes there are people who can secretly transform into it? If not, I walk by. Sometimes fantasy tropes that aren't supported by real folklore (I am looking at you Ratkin/wererats) are too attractive to pass up, but they are best used as something secret, rare, or unknown mystery if the world you are playing in is supposed to be like the real world.

    That's my preference. But the actual game itself is all over the place. It says Tasmanian Wolves, which aren't even...
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  • As I explained in that post from three years ago:





    So I don't know what the point of your comment is. The original poster wanted some real names he could use in place of the PENTEX ones. So I gave him some. If you want to give other options three years afterwards, you're free to do so. How closely did you actually read the thread?...
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