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  • Black Fox
    replied to The Vaulderie
    There is actually some kind of rite involved, so I assume that knowledge of the Rite is essential for the vaulderie to work. I remember that Rituals was a background you could buy at character creation. And by being a background, it was something only the ST could award to characters afterwards - it couldn't be purchased by XP. Don't know how it is in V20 though.
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  • Black Fox
    started a topic Need Chiminage Ideas for Raven

    Need Chiminage Ideas for Raven

    A character intends to get a Raven spirit to help him. This isn't fetish level chiminage, but more like Rite of Binding for services or as talens. What would be appropriate chiminage to the spirit?

    Raven spirits are trickster based, so they typically enjoy some kind of display of ingenuity or trickery. Axis Mundi gives an example for Hrafn that to agree to become a fetish, the Garou needs to trick a Wyrm minion do Gaia's bidding or some other "epic" prank. Wow, that's really hard - but I understand that's appropriate for a fetish. For a talen or single service, it won't...
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  • Black Fox
    replied to Oneiri
    There is at least one Oneiri mentioned in the books you listed. Page 191 of Beyond the Barriers names Myathia of the Twelve Collars. So there may be more easter eggs hidden. Good to know that Chimera is listed as well. Thanks.
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  • Black Fox
    replied to Sandmen motivations?
    I've never heard that visiting the living in DREAMS violate the Dictum. Since the Sandmen are not one of the Criminal Guilds, I assume the Hierarchy is fine with that provided their dream visits do not harm the living....
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  • Black Fox
    replied to Sandmen motivations?
    My understanding is that their involvement in Dreams is because of a desire to be able to do something outside the actual underworld. Entering someone's dreams means they aren't in the Underworld anymore, and the Dream Theatres of their Guild aren't in the Underworld either. And they're able to enter some of the greater Dream Realms which also exist outside the Underworld. This is the closest to being alive that they can get. That is a pretty big allure. In all of these places not only are they able to interact with the dream selves of the living, but powerful mortals and creatures who can...
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  • Black Fox
    replied to River of Death Question
    I would say yes technically. Just don't expect to be able to do it in practice though.

    One thing about Underworld geography though is that it can't really be mapped. Outside a few "core" areas with solid boundaries, our perspective of space and time break down. Once you enter the Tempest, things happen as plot requires, one's spiritual journey needs, and aided by how well your Harbinger knows his stuff.
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  • Black Fox
    started a topic Oneiri

    Oneiri

    How many of the Oneiri or Dream Lords have been named in canonical materials?
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  • This would be the real explanation:


    And this makes the most sense as an in-character explanation:


    And this is a very clever idea that I think would rationalize how his dark self is able to work its plans through Saulot's consciousness....
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  • Black Fox
    replied to Justice and punishment
    I don't think the cub did anything wrong by Garou standards. Garou aren't going to blame the cub for unintentionally tearing the Veil when he had his First Change.

    Most likely, the sept would simply send the cub to another sept to learn how to be a Garou permanently or for a certain amount of time, and then they'd proceed with whatever they'd have to do to attend to the Veil.

    I do think they would point out the problem of the situation in order to drill it into the cub that this needed to be avoided, and that if done afterwards it would result in some kind of punishment...
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  • Black Fox
    replied to Primal Urge
    It is the default skill to use most times a character is in lupus form. If you are in lupus form, anytime you're hunting, tracking, or trying to survive, primal urge is the skill to do so as the actual abilities a human would use are based on rational thought and training. All those kind of skills for a wolf are bundled in Primal Urge.

    And of course, any application of animal magnetism would use it.

    It's also something I've occasionally called for to do a gut instinct reaction check to see if the sub conscious notices something amiss and overrides the conscious mind...
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  • I've made massive changes to Pentex in my chronicles keeping only the core idea and the names.

    The first thing I do is reduce and split off the number of corporations Pentex controls. Some of the businesses work fine, but I don't see why Pentex would control them. If one wants to run a story idea around an RPG company actually leading its consumers to the occult, then Black Dog Game company works fine and doesn't need to be controlled by Pentex. In fact, I think it works better as an independent company founded by people who independently were contacted and corrupted by Banes. There...
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  • There are terms in the lexicon that imply or confirm there are some vampires feed with a minimal amount of violence. Cauchemars are vampires who feed only on sleeping victims. Cuncators are vampires who avoid killing their victims while they feed. Banking refers to drinking blood from blood banks as opposed to the living. Farmers and Vegetaries are those who feed on animals. Casanovas and Teases are vampires who seduce victims for their blood, but do not kill them. Then of course you have vampires who actively pursue Golconda and the bloodline/sect Children of Osiris who attempt to overcome...
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  • It is hard to do "treaties" on this scale because there is no formal organization that can represent the whole Garou Nation and enforce any such policy among all the individual septs and Garou, likewise for the multiple groups of Fera.

    At best there could be a grand concolation where tribal elders of all the tribes in North America get together and agree for a common policy towards the Fera, and they announce at a caern there will be a concolation in three months to discuss that. Then those elders from all the tribes would send messengers throughout North America to convince...
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  • Treat them just like any other NPC. They are there to provide background and detail to your chronicle. If they enter on stage to interact with the PCs, follow the interaction with the players to determine if the players see them as mentors, allies, rivals, foils, or even enemies and act accordingly. Let the PCs drive things instead of your plot to determine what happens to the signature characters.
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  • It's clearly the 13 year old girl.

    Although someone clearly needed to consider how Pure Breed would be interpreted in homid form, since it's a complete travesty in that regard....
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  • Black Fox
    replied to Spirit Question
    I wouldn't allow any smell unless the objects were known as something that strongly retains smells, and only in cases where the smell retention was prolonged (say a box of chocolate kept inside a box, perfume kept in a drawer, or objects inside a particularly moldy house/room or which suffered smoke damage from fire). Typically it would be softer goods like sofas, clothing, and other upholstery and textiles and such which retain smells, not so much hard goods. Taste would be even more restrictive, requiring the object to essentially have "consumed" the item. Unless it was something...
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  • Black Fox
    replied to Spirit Question
    Experiences of the object itself is something I would accept provided such experiences were limited to the interactions the object could conceivably "sense."

    In most cases, this is going to be tactile - objects know when some person, animal, or another object touches/handles/encounters it. Thus a table might "know" that several objects were placed on it (and eventually provide enough clues to identify that there were two dinner plates, four glasses, and various bowls - but not what was in those dishes, glasses, and bowls like chicken, salad, wine) and that there...
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  • Black Fox
    replied to Spirit Question
    I would say no. Slumbering means the spirit is sleeping - not active. It should not have any recollection.

    Furthermore, even if there was an active spirit - why would it know anything that happened in the Realm if the spirit was in the umbra? Unless they have a proper charm to know what is happening in the Realm, or unless they were materialized, possessing someone, or otherwise present - the Gauntlet should prevent them from knowing any details of what happened on the other side. Even Peeking only gives you broad overview, not details.
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  • There are certain Gifts that require Rage and Gnosis to be spent in the same turn, and that is the other exception to the rule that they can't.
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