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  • Air spirits would be good as they would travel around. Water spirits for those dwelling at the dock. And nearby Weaver spirits. You might also be able to get urban animal spirits if anything lives nearby on an ongoing basis like pigeons and rats.
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  • People liking to read about dragons in fiction doesn't mean they think they exist in real life. So it doesn't make them banal, nor does it help them someday exist in the real world.
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  • There aren't wards per se, but there are various rites, gifts, and fetishes which could protect a place. Most of which, alas, are probably beyond a Rank 1 Theurge.

    Level 4 caern rite is Rite of the Shrouded Glen which makes an area invisible in the umbra invisible. But it requires lots of Gnosis to spend, and it only works at caerns.

    Level 3 fetish Sanctuary Chimes prevents spirits from materializing (meaning manifest in the Realm) within 100 feet of them. But that is any and all spirits.

    The level 4 gift Spirit Ward acts like a ward, but is only there...
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  • Black Fox
    replied to Mythos Based Faction?
    One of the Nephandi factions basically worship the Great Old Ones, or at least their equivalent in the WoD.
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  • Not always. The Shadow Lords historically were the closest allies of the Silver Fangs doing all the dirty work for them. That relationship would probably be very healthy for many thousands of years, only slowly changing into antagonism in the past two thousand. And the two tribes very often live in the same protectorates in the Eurasian forests and steppes. So I could definitely see some formal arrangements made between certain septs or within certain protectorates there of such a policy."It's too bad cousin Yuri lacks the right breeding, but I'm sure he'll do fine with the Shadow Lords....
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  • Remember though we aren't talking about babies. We are talking about cubs after their First Change (human age 14-21, sometimes even later) because I don't think it's possible to determine the amount of Pure Breeding solely from how they look as a human, and even if they can, there's always the hope that a gangly child will fill out after puberty hits. There is a big difference between killing a cub that people have grown to love and care for (and which can defend itself, even if clumsily), and a newborn infant. Many primitive cultures are fine with infanticide leaving one or both parents to...
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  • I think we're talking about two very different scenarios. The type of Garou you are talking about are the screw ups and failures who can't hack it as Garou of other tribes. They may not have many options to go. Other tribes may not want them at all. However, in the "They would Be Silver Fangs if they weren't PB2" scenario, there is no indication that such Garou are screw ups or failures. Their only "flaw" is that they don't have PB 3. They may not be good enough for the Silver Fangs because of pedigree issues, but I actually think most other tribes would love to have...
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  • Here are some things that stand out about Nuremberg.

    1) City was home to many of the Diets (parliaments) of the Holy Roman Empire between 1000-1663. That caused it to be treated like an unofficial capital of the Empire during that time. But not all Diets were held there. After the Golden Bull of 1356, newly elected kings had to hold their first Imperial Diet at Nuremberg.

    2) It was a very important cultural center for the German Renaissance. Albrecht Durer lived most of his life there. It was home to a lot of early print shops.

    3) The city was Protestant...
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  • I imagine any cast offs know they are from Silver Fang stock because until they have the First Change, they don't know what level of Pure Breed the Garou cub will have. That kinfolk family lineage may have reliably produced litters of PB 3 Garou, but at some point a son or daughter has their first Garou child, and fifteen years later it becomes apparent the line (from that individual at least) is now PB 2 and the other Silver Fangs recoil - no more mating with that kinfolk family, ship them off to somewhere. The kinfolk family and Garou obviously know where their lineage comes from, but they're...
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  • "Silver Fangs" PB 2 & Under - where do they go, what do they do?

    Silver Fangs require minimum Pure Breed 3. We also know that the tribe has taken various desperate attempts to preserve as much Pure Breed as they can. The implication is that there is a not insignificant amount of Garou of Silver Fang stock who "fall out" of Falcon's favor because they lack the requisite Pure Breed. These Garou have to become members of another tribe. Yet I can't recall this situation ever being addressed in the source materials even though this has to be a factor in the game setting. Here are my thoughts on how this should be handled.

    1) I don't think...
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  • Aggravated damage is one of those things that can be confusing. Very important - aggravated damage does NOT mean unsoakable damage. Instead, it means damage with special rules on healing, and that different kinds of creatures soak it differently. The book does say that "humans can't soak aggravated damage." That says nothing about supernatural creatures. To use the Vampire game as an example, vampires normally don't soak Aggravated damage, but they can if they have Fortitude (although of course if you are using the Werewolf rules to simulate a vampire, that's not a distinction to...
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  • There are no direct references to Lovecraftiana in the games, but there are various indirect references where the author was clearly inspired by Lovecraft or other mythos authors. As others have mentioned, the most frequent references are in Mage with the Nephandi and Werewolf in regards to the Wyrm with some others in Vampire. Presumably, Changeling might have some references to the Dreamlands stories, but I've read very little Changeling. Here are some things that may be reference to Lovecraft,

    1) There seems to be something in Antarctica which some Garou are interested in. ...
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  • Black Fox
    replied to Flaw "cursed" ideas please
    Another way to rewrite the guidelines could be:

    -1: If you do something bad, the ST will make sure it comes back to bite you in the ass.
    -2: There is a situation where the ST will give you penalties to a specific kind of action.
    -3: There is a general situation where the ST will say you can't do something, or some other immediate negative effect happens to you.
    -4: There is a permanent ongoing effect which the ST will screw you over with.
    -5: The ST will screwjob your character constantly in every game session during the chronicle.

    So at -3,...
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  • Black Fox
    replied to How to talk with Gaia?
    I don't think that's what CTPhipps is saying. I interpret his words to mean that since there is a lot about the spirit world that Garou and everyone else simply don't know, that the Garou have naturally filled in the gaps with what they think is the truth. Whether or not that is actually the truth isn't really knowable, or at least not verifiable. But since it is Garou dogma, they believe it completely with no doubt. Someone else from a different perspective, would come to a different conclusion or hold off from any conclusion. They have just as much evidence for their beliefs as the Garou...
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  • One advantage Wraiths have is that they can augment their abilities with Artifacts and other objects of power, and that they can bring with them large numbers of allies to overwhelm their opponents. Another is that they can strike back in many indirect ways.

    These kind of creatures don't seek fights on equal terms. They want the field of battle to be somewhere which benefits them.
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  • If you want the "Abomination" character to be a Garou, you could always make him a Ronin who got involved in some dark Bane pacts to learn Gifts (perhaps some BSD totem Gifts as out of tribe), but pulled back from actually joining the BSDs because he realized they were all nuts. Nevertheless, perhaps the Garou think he did join after being disgraced with whatever it was that he did (perhaps mating with another Garou, questioning basic Garou values or beliefs, falling in love with a vampire and saving her from a pack), etc. After being on his journey alone and exploring things, he's...
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  • Here are some things to think about. However, I will say that I haven't read UBRM in decades so I don't know how appropriate they are to your details.

    1) The Abomination - Can you use a Kinfolk who was embraced?

    2) I don't see why a Succubus would present a problem? I always assumed that Garou and the other game lines would always classify creatures according to how they understand that. So Garou wouldn't think Gulfora is a "Christian demon", they would think she's some powerful Bane in service to the Maeljin Incarna of Lust.

    3) The Chicago Fanum...
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  • Black Fox
    replied to End Times yes or no?
    I liked the idea that each of the games had an eschatology which implied one day there would be an ending of the world. However, I never played or wanted to play in a game when that actually happened. I liked that there were sects, groups, and individuals who believed that to be the case and preparing for it while others lived there lives completely ignoring it and still more didn't believe, but occasionally looked behind their back. STs and players could pick and choose what elements they wanted for their own chronicles. Which was great.

    Gehenna, Apocalypse, Ascension, Doomsday,...
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  • It's not just the name. They use the actual picture of the creature as well. Someone who is just introduced to the game is going to clearly think that the totem is the actual Chimera of legend, just like some other tribes have totems of other legendary creatures like Fenris Wolf or Pegasus.

    Now I agree with you that the way Stargazers and their totem has developed, that the totem clearly has no connection of the actual mythological creature it is named after. But if that is the case why use the name and look in the first place?

    I think there is clearly a problem when...
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  • I agree that is what they are going for in terms of what the totem can do and what tribe is about, but of course the only creature they could use for that name is the Greek mythological monster which is an extremely poor fit.

    The more I think about it now, Mantis would probably be the most relevant totem.

    1) Mantises are solitary creatures which is what Stargazers are.

    2) Mantises are known for their excellent camouflage so they can hide from both their prey and predators. Some Mantises appear like sticks; others like flowers; some like ants; and even more...
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