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  • SunlessNick
    replied to Contagion Chronicle book
    Thankyou for all the answers, Gentleman Gamer...
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  • That's why I said there shouldn't be conventional Bound (ie with geists).

    If these precursor Beasts are people who survived an encounter with an Insatiable and ended up with a broken off piece of it, then that I figured might manifest as a creature or an environment (ie a quasi-Horror or a quasi-Lair) shaped around the fears of that individual as sparked by the Insatiable. Which could also imply that the precursor Beasts have a much less intimate and symbiotic relationship with their inner terror....
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  • Stronger unquestionably. Smarter? Hard to tell. They had bigger brains (both absolutely and relative to body size), but their technology advanced as a much slower pace.

    Sapiens travelled over longer distances, which also meant interactions with more groups. I believe there is a hypothesis that Sapiens could eat a wider variety of foods than Neanderthals, which is an enormous advantage.

    Another option would be to go completely against type and give Sapiens a supernatural advantage over other hominids. Perhaps we were the first species to be capable of drawing on...
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  • SunlessNick
    replied to Contagion Chronicle book
    Or as portending the appearance of new supernatural species that will supplant their own - evolution didn't work out so well for the extinct.


    But that brings me to a slight rephrase and expansion of a previous question. So the Cryptocracy believes that the Contagion appears when there is too much corruption in human society (which we seem to be assuming means moral corruption, but maybe we shouldn't be) - and attracts groups who are interested in control over human society - is that correct? So is the faction written up so it could form either way round?

    By which...
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  • They can reflect the beliefs or memories of a shade that's gone that deep. But the Dominions don't correspond to Earthly geography - it's the local that's the wrong part. That shaman's realm me be a findable a day or two down from an Avernian Gate in Irkutsk - but might be just as easily accessible from Mombasa, Manila, or Lima - and just across the River from a realm more reminiscent of Xibalba, or some horrific amalgam of factories....
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  • Makes sense. I don't pay much attention to Mage....
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  • Maybe? Lower Depths are scary hungry places at heart, and the second edition Underworld certainly fits that description. On the other hand, it seems a bit more whole, somehow, than places like Duat or the Inferno. So, I guess the answer is "if you want."...
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  • SunlessNick
    replied to Crossover Legacies
    Perhaps they understand how history, experience, and turns of the spirit are echoed in a person's blood - they can tell a lot about you from the taste of it.

    I'd recommend making Ba the Text (they're the action-oriented, kingly, lead-from-the-front ones, who more than all the others make decrees). Ren as Effigies (the name encapsulates the complete being, and teaches you to sculpt lesser beings or their representatives in turn), Ka as Regia (concerned with the inner nature that matters most), and Ba as Amulets (taking on passions as they take on adornments).

    Deviants...
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  • Well, I'm glad playable ghosts is winning, but I'd expected it to be closer....
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  • It's not an extensive description but 1st Edition Geist talks about them on page 267, mixes its caves with echoes of the local subterranean landscape and and local death folklore. Book of the Dead supports this - relevantly to your original question, it says that the afterlives echoed in the Upper Reaches aren't necessarily current - eg, around Baghdad they echo the Mesopotamian Underworld rather than anything from Islamic eschatology - so under Scotland, you could find Celtic with the bigger caves reminiscent of the Celtic idea of the land of the dead (probably the Pictish idea of it as well,...
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  • In the Mummy forum, I floated the notion that the Underworld straight-up is Ammut....
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  • No? Once you're down in the Dead Dominions you're not really local to anywhere on Earth. You'll find echoes of afterlife folklore, but all trashed up, garbled, and admixed. You're more likely to find parallels to folklore in the Upper Reaches....
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  • Regarding the emotions, belonging fits with the others as a kind of "five stages of alienation" - pain, shame, desire, sorrow, belonging.

    Regarding elements, the Earth/Metal/Water/Wood/Fire system is Chinese, not Indian.

    And regarding KotE, what about the other dharmas? The Face of the Gods believing the forces of Faerie are divine in some way, making them marked by the divine and able to become gods themselves.
    The Flame of the Rising Phoenix believing in recovering their human life to the greatest extent possible.
    The Spirit of the Living Earth...
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  • SunlessNick
    replied to Contagion Chronicle book
    Come to think of it, is the Contagion written/assumed to be a new phenomenon?...
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  • That was a great preview! It's interesting that the low places are described as being in Twilight. Does that mean someone without the appropriate senses can't tell whether or not an Avernian Gate is open?
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  • SunlessNick
    replied to Contagion Chronicle book
    Are the False playable?

    The Podcast said that the Sworn have other reasons than the Contagion to work together - and the example Sworn was based around stability and control. So are the Sworn detailed enough to be played in a campaign without the Contagion?

    It seems as if the Sworn may be able to fulfil this role as well as the Y-splat. But I'm interested in this question too.

    I had the same impression....
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  • SunlessNick
    replied to Kinship Horrors
    Hoard depends on having it so someone else doesn't. So a Collector of people has to be feeding on the resentment of those the people are taken from - which means parading around with your entourage, who hang onto your every gesture even as everyone else wonders why the hell they put up the scraps of attention you pay. Or perhaps, the people who wish they were in your entourage instead.

    And making it Talassi puts an interesting spin on captivity, since Hoard demands the captives be out in the open with you. What do you hold them with? Allure? Dependence? Drugs? Reward?...
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  • SunlessNick
    replied to Kinship Horrors
    I could see this approach working with phenomena as well as creatures. Like the famous Swimming Hole might produce a Makara Horror with a Hunger for Secrets - pulling you ever deeper into its orbit, drawing out your hidden hatreds and desires about the others in your community, and either exposing them or taunting you over them. And probably with an interesting relationship with the Beast who's guarding the actual Hole per the core book.

    (ETA: I'll add a bit more detail when I'm not a the library )
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  • I'm going to reiterate what I said - that absolutely feels different from thaumotech....
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  • I think you've already done it. Cheiron's use of monster implants is a side-project - their goal is medical treatments. They might be interested in human augmentation down the line, but its not their focus (and they don't really regard thaumotech as augmentation). A conspiracy whose goal is augmentation from the get-go, especially with societal goals for it, is already as distinct enough from Cheiron....
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