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  • I'm not sure that Attributes shouldn't be shared. When Capheus is channelling Sun, he certainly seems to be displaying her physical fitness and condition as well as her skills. And in another fight where Wolfgang is channeling her, they briefly switch back to him when being punched in the face, after which we see Sun smirking in a way that implies such a blow hurt less than usual.

    From the same fight as the second example, we also see that in sharing, the channelled sensate isn't 100% limited to their clustermate's body and can project a presence outside it. Specifically, you see...
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  • As I said earlier, Islamic mythology includes the potential for nonhuman adherents in a way that Christian mythology doesn't, so that's a good bit of atmosphere to include. Which is why I often recommend Veil of Night's Ashirra as a model. They are built around attempts to adapt Islam to vampiric natures and concerns.

    That said, it doesn't have to be just one covenant.

    If an Islamic-world covenant has an analogue for the Lancea's creed, they might take after the myth of the qarin - special djinn who are doubles of each person and tempt them to evil. They obviously...
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  • Sorry. My advice is the Carthian Law-esque version. And for it to be less arguably Islamic than the Lancea is Chrsitian - if that makes sense - because Islam already has the concept of nonhuman adherents in its mythology, and it would be a shame not to take advantage of that bit of atmosphere....
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    When it comes to monsters, I think humanity is best compared to the habitat than another species: the environment, the food supply, the sum of selective pressures. Monsters who adapt to humanity survive, those who don't die - but being intelligent beings, monsters can to an extent adapt humanity to them - but they have to judge that extent carefully....
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  • Then what's with all the Longinus-not-Jesus-so-it's-not-Christian argument? Which you yourself posted in support of?

    It's not hard to "understand," thankyou very much. It's a disagreement that you can swap out all the names, myths, history, social structure - all the things covenants like this use to define themselves - and say it's a brach of the same group.

    The Invictus are different. Their ethos is "whatever works for power" and they'll use and recognise whatever form of power works in a given area.

    Which is why the Circle of the...
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  • Because the significance of Longinus is entirely predicated on the divinity of Jesus - that is how he became a vampire, and how he realised God had a purpose for vampires. His whole legend is explicitly Christian, and built on events that only have significance in a Christian context (Jesus means nothing in Judaism, while in Islam another was crucified in his place).

    And that life is the life of the Roman Centurion who stuck a spear into Jesus's side and proclaimed his divinity. If you want a vampiric religion that works equally as a current beneath Christian. Islamic, and Judaic...
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  • Or adapt the Ashirra from the Veil of Night supplement for Dark Ages. (The Ashirra could be described as if the Invictus took Islam as its central governing element).

    Another idea that was suggested was making an Islamic covenant somewhat Carthian in nature: the leading imams, qadis, and other authorities pass judgments about how to integrate vampiric and Islamic life, which become enforced through a process similar to Carthian Law.
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