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  • Of course they can, which two contradict?

    Restating, what linguistics says is:

    (a) Acquisition of an L2 imparts skills than can be used for L(n) acquisition, improving the rate of that acquisition. The improvement does not seem to vary across syntactic or historical relationships, i.e. there is a "constant" improvement, coming from acquiring language acquisition skills.
    (b) Acquisition of L(n)s are affected by the historical relationship of that L(n) with one's own L1.
    (c) There is an observed "confusion" effect when learning similar languages...
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  • Ha!, yes indeed you are right here, I had gone so far off-topic that I'd forgotten this was a discussion of a system in the WoD! I was really only talking about real-life language acquisition.


    Of course, I'm unsure what you mean, but perhaps I was unclear.


    Closer languages been easier doesn't refer to French being easier after Spanish, but to both being easier due to their relationship with English, all else being equal. In this case French acquisition was affected by Spanish acquisition (this isn't uncommon in the population in general and is a noted effect),...
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  • No there are studies with adults as well, I can give you references if you want. The entire learning process is enhanced, vocabulary retention, rate of syntax acquisition, everything that one would colloquially summarise as "easier".

    I meant absolutely in the sense of "ignoring the relative", rather than " absolute" as in "always true". Better expressed, the speed up in third language acquisition will not cause more distant languages to become easier than those in the same family.


    All major meta-studies demonstrate that languages...
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  • It is known to be the case experimentally that third language acquisition is faster than second. The "speed up" is mostly "language distance" invariant, although languages closer to one's own are always easier absolutely. The effect plateaus at some point (fifth language in most studies)...
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  • I personally don't think there should be balance between the templates, they're not classes like in D&D, they're seperate games with seperate themes. A new demon should be more powerful on average than a vampire for example, I'd find the reverse to be slightly world breaking (and theme breaking in some cases) for the sake of team combat.
    I could be wrong though, if you feel there is a deeper problem in the rules here.

    Which signature disciplines are unbalanced in your view....
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  • An Fhuiseog
    replied to Animalism, Getting Creative
    Completely agree, I have overlooked it in every game except my most recent one, it's actually lethal in a political game....
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  • You're probably right, I'd be interested to hear how the core isn't balanced though, I've never had a problem with it. Tsusai, is the imbalance in the combat abilities or something else (relative social power of Covenants)...
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  • I'm confused by this, you only need one book for VtR:2E, you don't need the new blue core or anything....
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