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  • Just finished reading it there now, thanks for making me aware of it.

    It's a great book, but I think it is really the first half that most Scion players would enjoy, as it contains a good description of Irish mythology. The second part is more about the literary revival and how Dublin's educated elite revived the stories for a Victorian audience, which I think would be less of a concern. I'll give a more detailed response soon.
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  • That's quite true, I was trying to think are there any "world simulating" heavy games that actual prioritise the accuracy of the world over your ability to tell a narrative. Even a simulation heavy game like Pendragon simulates a form of literature, and hence guides story development. I can only really think of possibly HârnMaster as a case where the world can heavily override the narrative (e.g. dungeon quests can end with you dying from slipping on a rock at the entrance)...
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  • Interesting takes on GNS, I've often found it a rather good basic approximation in that the people I have played with's motivations are:
    Play a balanced "game", is mechanics navigation and mastery.
    Explore a world/setting
    Tell a story

    People I have met tend to only like two out of the three and their reason for disliking a game often boils down to it weighing toward the third at the expense of one of their motivations. (The other reasons for not liking a game have always been either "edition war" stuff or just finding the games central concept/theme...
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  • An Fhuiseog
    replied to Dear, White People
    This was part of a larger belief that Celts (I.e. us, the highland Scots and the Welsh and until the 18th century the Cornish) were inherently incapable of self-governance as evidenced by our similarity to Africans, e.g. skull shape, affinity for music, etc
    Essentially too passionate to think rationally.

    That said, although my grandparents would have faced such racism from their landlord, it has no reality to modern Irish people and I most frequently encounter it used by Irish-Americans for the purpose you mentioned....
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  • An Fhuiseog
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    Fair enough, but I wasn't really claiming anything about a unified black culture or even mentioned black people at all. To follow your point though what are some of these elements of common white culture?


    Again not in all countries, in Ireland we didn't have knights or chivalric literature....
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  • An Fhuiseog
    replied to Dear, White People
    Of course (although noting what Leetsepeak said, i.e. Black and White might mean something unified in the US or certain contexts), what's your point?


    I'd argue that's more a trait of Normanised cultures than European in general....
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  • An Fhuiseog
    replied to Dear, White People
    One thing to say is that this is a little constructed after the fact. Plato and Socrates would have in no sense seen themselves as "white", but rather as Hellenes/Greek, vastly cultural distinct in their opinion to the barbarians in Croatia and Italy and absolutely not the same race (they even viewed themselves as quite distinct from those who spoke other Greek dialects). Similarly Michelangelo wouldn't have even seen himself as Italian, but as Tuscan and even faced racism in the rest of Italy on occasion for his foreign habits....
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  • The Irish kings seem to use the Welsh "ap" rather than "Mac", but this could be setting canon that the families are Welsh in origin. (I'm new to the game)
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  • Going to plug it again:

    Dark Eras: The Electroweak Epoch.

    Building on malonkey1's suggestion:...
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