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[nalak42]

Also doesn't the Realm and Creation at large view sorcerers and sorcery as more of a necessary danger? Like pretty sure WFHW says that most people don't understand sorcery enough to trust it and the way it makes things go causes people to be uncomfortable. So I'd think a lot of them would be more reluctant on the grounds that they don't have the same authority to pick their initiation and not wanting to risk certain ones and how they effect you. Like I know a few people who wouldn't touch sorcery if they thought their best shot was mara feeding them souls.

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I could use some help with a thing. I'm trying to give a brief ,2-3 lines, description of each of the Great Houses. Not all encompassing obviously, just enough to give a general idea on what the house is and how it functions. Like Iselesi is a house that was almost wiped out by the others. The survivors have mostly been put into other houses and scattered about and are working to destroy and undermine the remaining Great Houses.

Could I get some help on that?

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I will also mention that I believe its in the core that Beasts aren't susceptible to disquiet or whatever thing it is that causes prolonged exposure to a Promethean to cause mortals to lose their minds. Which is probably really nice to know you have someone in your corner who isn't going to eventually snap like a twig just because you exist.

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It doesn't give them the ability to open Pathways, just protection in your Lair. Think of it like having a friend who you've let know the code to turn off your security on your house, but not their own key for your place. So they won't have to deal with security when they show up, even if you're not there, but if you aren't personally letting them in then they might not be able to get in anyway....

[nalak42]

Do you mean mechanically or in universe?...

[nalak42]

Possible, but since this will potentially ultimately end in Cohen the Barbarian's diamond dentures or the like I'd imagine exalts would be better....

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And that's why you eventually end up with exalted dentists....

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I'm inclined to say no since humans only have the one pair of adult teeth, so it feels like it would fall into the regrowing a thing that shouldn't heal if lost territory. That said Exalts live a long time and the healing is pretty intensive so I'd say it could fix damage to one's teeth and over an extended timeframe I might allow them to get their new teeth so long as we aren't dealing with weird shenanigans and just as a weird thing that happens at my table....

[nalak42]

As others have noted Beasts are not guaranteed to have good relationships with their kin, there is a power that says you get to make a check like you made a good first impression but that's as far as it goes, and there is nothing saying there isn't a bloody good reason for an individual not to get along with a Beghotten. That said personalities will run the gamut of human personalities, so nothing stopping a Beast from ending up friends/family with any other supernatural just because they share common ground outside of the necessities foisted upon them by the more abnormal parts of their nature....

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First in regards to feeding the Beghotten can also feed off the other splats doing their thing. So helping a few of the garou take down a problematic spirit will also grant a few points of satiety, which is helpful to Beghotten who have more issues with some of their own feeding. Next there is little to stop a Beast from feeding on other supernatural entities, including ones that would be a problem for a group. An easy Changeling example would be a tyrant or a nemesis working security at a goblin market; deterring and catching individuals tempted to violate the rules of the market can feed a tyrant,...

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And in Vampire the Masquerade Beast was the term given to the mindless berserk feeding frenzy kindred risked entering if their humanity got too low (though one of my freinds told me Gangrel tended to live there in his experience) while driven by hunger the Beghotten are hardly mindless and certainly have little to do with monster in one of the Kindred's head.

Heck the Unchained make Soul Pacts all the time and that doesn't get any closer to claiming a person's soul then you would through normal murder. For added bonus there is a conversion guide because Demons are not Demons by default...

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Gellydog I look forward to the report on your "It Came from Beneath the Sea" and Beast crossover campaign

[nalak42]

Technically they rolled it into the Devouring and changed the name. Even in the core it's mentioned that some Beghotten insist that their Devouring was more coming to grips with something that was always there. The Player's Guide expands on it a bit more with some more discussion, its basically the smoother option on the Devouring.

As for why on the change, I don't know....

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I will also remind that the section on training times in the core (pg 178 since I always lose it myself.) does also say that it isn't like characters need to exclusively be doing the training. Also that practical experience can count for training. So hey you remember how the ship you were on got attacked by Lintha and you said you'd help out around the ship while the wounded crew recovered, great you can buy those new sailing dots; needed to act as the tough while the party face negotiated prices and contracts recently, great you've managed to hone your ability to project your presence and can...

[nalak42]

The biggest issue that comes to my mind is just that players will occasionally end up with things you hadn't planned for them to have. Now obviously it won't be as problematic as them just being able to buy new powers in the middle of a fight, but it might still trip you up from time to time.

On a more narrative aspect training has a few ways to be used that I find somewhat beneficial. Like on the low end being able to describe how a character trains can work nicely for character traits, then there's the tradition of enemies or what have you just interrupting training. Then there's...

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Kind of a matter of how rough do you want it to go. The Player's Guide gives a bit more of the impression that the you don't get a choice aspect is more the side effect of some other Beasts getting involved and forcing the issue. Whereas with others it just ends up being that your Horror will keep confronting you until you accept the conclusion that the both parties are the same individual.

Think of it more like forced confrontation with an unpleasant truth. (Which makes me think there's probably a few Namtaru that love it when they can force the Devouring for their more stubborn...

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Insatiable fall into the dark mirror category to my reasoning. You know constant desire to feed, no consideration about everything else unless it conflicts with or relates to their own desires, inflicting the horrors of their existence on the world whether through dragging their monster part into the world or inflicting the irrational fears of their existence on them.

It isn't surprising that the Insatiable don't strike you as that different from Beasts, outside of a few powers (like being able to steal Lairs) they are the monsters a Beast technically could be. Think about it, it...

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Someone wearing a Perroneles. It's like the one on the far right of that image (viewed as a spread between pages) where you just have a stomach bottle bug coming out of a person. The way its designed and the eye gems on the hands make it seem likely that its one of the living armors.*

*Also shades of Witchblade....

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It's been a while since I read the rules, so I want to check thoughts. If its stipulated in the contract, and of course the other party knows, could you make it viable for a person to sign with something other than their name on a contract? Like easy scenario would be if the pact was to give someone back the ability to use their hands in the exchange could you make it so contract says, "The party of [their name here] here after refered to as X and will knowingly be signing as such..."

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I'm gonna say it doesn't seem that feasible. Insatiable seem to view themselves as having a different progenitor than the Dark Mother and since she's the power one is supposed to commune with when using one of the rites that doesn't seem as probable. Also add in the bit about the one leading needing to function as a shaman representing all Beasts present make me disinclined towards the standard idea. Probably also not helped by the bit pointing out that a non-captive Hero showing up at a temple profanes the site, and considering Beasts tend to be less friendly with the Insatiable than Heroes I'm...