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  • Plus, SOP for Gangrel embraces look pretty much like the conditions that generate Caitiff for other clans. Either Gangrel blood is especially resistant to having its signifying features wiped away by lack of early training, or nurture isn't that big a factor in becoming Caitiff after all.
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  • I think an across-the-board ruling that one must be some sort of human at the core, rather than a hybrid, reanimated corpse, possessing spirit, etc. will help keep the power level down to a manageable setting.
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  • Matt the Bruins fan
    replied to Nagaraja Thread
    Back in the time of Revised I gathered that the major clans numbered somewhere around 2,000 to 3,000 vampires each (with the Ventrue and Brujah at the high end of that and the Tremere and Giovanni at the low), and my impression was that the Nagaraja were hovering around 50 left after being winnowed by the 6th Great Maelstrom and subsequent lack of support. In a V20 setting where the Tal'Mahe'Ra is still going strong and Enoch was never nuked, two or three times that number feels like the sweet spot to me. Enough for some variety, few enough that most vampires have never heard of them.
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  • Overall, I figure the Lasombra and Tzimisce make up a little over a quarter of the sect each, with Brujah antitribu and Panders being the next largest groups. Harbingers of Skulls, Serpents of the Light, and Kiasyd are probably extremely rare—I doubt any of their memberships exceed double digits.
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  • That does seem to make the most sense. Using Soul Stealing you're creating a body that's basically just still-breathing meat with its animating spirit gone missing, and Daemonic Possession shrugs and says "Eh, close enough."
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  • I see prejudice against Caitiff probably arising more from sires dismayed that their childer don't share their clan weakness and show no particular aptitude for their clan disciplines. They're not reading XP costs off a character sheet, they're going "it shouldn't take you this long to learn how to draw the focus of a crowd, I had that down inside of six months. What the hell's wrong with you?!?"
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  • Matt the Bruins fan
    replied to Nagaraja Thread
    You think there are 2,500 members of an obscure bloodline with serious Masquerade issues that's almost entirely part of a secret underworld-based cult? Is your campaign setting based on Monster High?...
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  • Matt the Bruins fan
    replied to Nagaraja Thread
    I'm even OK with the Nagaraja getting extra oomph in spendable blood from their diet without merits. I figure that's more than offset by the problems of having a mouthful of shark teeth and accumulating leftover scraps/bones from human corpses the way I accumulate empty cases of soda....
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  • My main character's original concept was as a Shadow Crusader for a Black Hand chronicle. Back in the day my storyteller would just have me sense the presence of souleaters and other eldritch horrors when narratively convenient. Over time while fleshing the character's history out I established a long alliance with the Sabbat Inquisition, and when I rebuilt him under V20 rules I decided to spend points on a defined combo power to detect when someone was being puppet-mastered by demons and more vague malevolent forces. I based it on the Animus Ligature power from Rites of the Blood, but used Auspex,...
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  • I think so. I'm sure I read somewhere about Children of the Dracon regarding Koldunism as infernalism, in a way that implied the attitude came from the top down. I know the Dracon itself definitely has a grudge against the Carpathian elders who are the art's foremost practitioners....
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  • Yeah, isn't something like 2/3 of the bloodline supposed to be descended from Ur-Shugli? I think people would notice if none of them darkened with age.

    The pedant in me must point out that Velya is 5th generation, and the Dracon's opposition to Koldunic Sorcery may make him one of the few 4th gen methuselahs who doesn't practice blood magic.
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  • I kind of like the idea of the Niktuku not being associated with the Nosferatu antediluvian at all, but actually monstrous strains of proto-vampires predating Caine that were driven into the wilderness/underground by his progeny. Nosferatu are their victims because they're targets of opportunity, hidden away from the sight of the human world to a far greater degree than most other vampires and far easier to identify as vampires and catch than Gangrel.
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  • Matt the Bruins fan
    replied to Iron Fist as a Mage
    I was thinking in terms of the otherdimensional city where they're headquartered and the association with dragons.
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  • My visual of the Tempest is like the scene in What Dreams May Come based on Géricault's The Raft, with ominous storm clouds filling the sky and screaming bodies being tossed around in the currents.

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  • Yeah, demons may want to specifically own a given vampire's soul, and have a powerful minion on Earth in the meantime, without it meaning that said vampire wasn't hellbound anyway.
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  • Are Harbingers of Skulls standard Cappadocians who've just gotten spooky through centuries in the Underworld, or are they their own separate bloodline?
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  • Matt the Bruins fan
    replied to Iron Fist as a Mage
    I also think, given his origin, that Wu Lung would be a more likely tradition for him to be associated with than the Akashic Brotherhood.
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  • Who's to say they aren't? My understanding is that there's a considerable interval after death before a wraith really becomes aware of their new state and surroundings. Vampires wouldn't necessarily be encountering wraiths they create through malice or accidental overfeeding, they'd have moved on by the time the new wraith is able to interact with the physical world in any way.
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  • I'm chomping at the bit for this to go up for general sale, sounds great!
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  • Probably the most fun I had setting wise was a campaign that started set in Boston in the mid 90s (present day at the time). The other player characters were college students, so we worked my octogenarian priest in as a visiting Comparative Religions professor whose class the rest were taking. We were all equals as far as the supernatural adventures went, but when it came to classwork I accepted no trivial excuses (such as saving the city from being corrupted by one of Jodi Blake's schemes) for missing assignments. The guys role played it out as if they were more terrified by the class syllabus...
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