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  • While they aren't one of my favourite clans, I do like that they have auspex. It contributes to their image as one of the "wise" clans. And I think they can do without dominate because they could:
    1. rely upon other means of control like blood bonding and terror.
    2. think they have better things to cultivate than humans or even other vampires, like their own physical and spiritual environments and themselves.
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  • I think the Revised explanation is that it is another form of sorcery, Dur-An-Ki, which is said to have been more widespread among Kindred during antiquity. Do the books that stat methuselahs with thaumaturgy stat other characters with blood sorcery under other names?
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  • Aren't most members of Banu Haqim that associate with other clans schismatics who typically follow Islam and sometimes other Abrahamic religions?...
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  • It does. It's just that Requiem gets about one book every four years....
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  • Most Giovanni had nothing to do with what the family did to the Cappadocians, because they hadn't been born yet. Besides the machinations of the likes of the Capuchin (and probably senior Harbingers in the loop), the Family Reunion happened because the younger members of the bloodlines were more interested in working together than pursuing a grudge that some of their ancestors started in the Renaissance.



    Maybe I've just overlooked it all, but I can't think of any reference in V5 to what's going on between Central Asia and Japan, besides Nagaraja and the Ministry being...
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  • If they're included again, those two should be included, along with the other clan branches and some new ones from between the Dark Ages and Week of Nightmares and the Week of Nightmares and now. Not just Indians, Phralmulo and miscellaneous individuals....
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  • Perhaps they weren't strictly Bloodlines, but there were at least other cultural groups, like the Alexandrites, Kalderash and Sybarites, although they were written as footnotes. Plus they have a Laibon legacy, as most clans do, and the Neve from North America....
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  • I got the impression that it's not that clear to the general public. The Lancea et Sanctum arguably introduced the masquerade as they know it and the point for them, is to show mortals that there are terrible things preying on them, but not to the point that they understand their predators. So ideally, they know something beyond humanity is preying on them, but not that they're vampires. Besides, they're not, in a lot of cases. There's a lot going on in CofD, including 10 non/superhuman playable splats....
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  • Besides balance, I don't see why they should have blood oaths. What they share with Invictus, is that they're established authorities and rich. Blood oaths fit the Legion of the Green, because they're a proto-feudal organisation (or at least they have the aesthetic) that consorts with changelings. If anything, I'd say that Carthian Law or even the Gallows Post benefit would be more suitable for al-Amin....
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  • I see them as being dispersed and integrated, mostly in communities that are less inclined to discriminate by lineage. Since the Week of Nightmares, there could be multiple, tiny new bloodlines that have almost nothing to do with one another, a few of which consider themselves the closest remnants of the previous clan. I still think that the flashier uses of chimestry are most useful when nobody expects you're Ravnos, because the odds of meeting a kindred who knows some blood sorcery that you've never seen is higher than meeting one who can use chimestry.
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