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The view I think is less like, a soul, which still has this discreet object quality to it, and more like a legacy or title. If that makes any sense. A bit I notice is langauge like "host" or something. It gives this sense of it being a parasite and separate. While being the inheritor of an Exaltation's like, lineage or legacy or whatnot, has a different feel to me about how it exists spaciotemporily.

This matters especially with Sidereals. The Exaltation isn't so much a thing in the baby when they're born. It's a process that they are part of from birth, that continues...

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That's what I meant actually. And generally how it's been talkeda bout by devs and the 1e book, which I don't have now. But yeah, when a Sidereal died, itw as a huge blow because well, their replacement and all that.

It's worth noting in 3e "shard" isn't the right term for this, since this is a 3e thread and about Lunars in context of that. It's not quite a host and more like, you're born already Chosen and fated to have a Second Breath. Think it less an object and like, your life is pretty much decided before you were born by the forces of the Maidens....

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It is mentioend again in the book Scroll of Heroes actually. When a Sidereal dies, her successor is conceived shortly after. It is literally their fate to have a Second Breath as a Sidereal when they take their first breath. It's not just that the Maidens take people from lives that fit their Chosen. They select people who will lead lives that lead to them being Chosen.



This is as I gather exactly what happened. Sidereals have had a few major notable generational shifts, those being the Usurpation, Contagion and now a bit ofa die-off now in previous editions. Part of...

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It actually depends on a bit. As I understand at least before, while a Sidereal's Exaltation is not foretold, it is fated. They're in effect born already with the Exaltation in 1e at least. It's just the Second Breath is something that's fated to occur later. As kind of already noted, if you were going to Exalt a Sidereal, you're a Sidereal. If youw eren't, you never were going to be.

Note also in context of 3e, the nature of "out of Fate" as a big "Sidereals can'ta ccount for this and have something big of their thematics not work" is probably not as prevalant....

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In previous editions, they have in a way been unclear about Exalts working in Heaven. SIdereals working for the Bureaus was often presented as a loophole and there was supposed to be almost a separation of Heaven and Earth on governments. This got kind of effed up with things like the Bureau of Seasons being ran in the First Age by a Solar. In that kind of context, Lunars working in various branches of the Celestila Hierarchy isn't so strange.

If in 3e there's a bit more stirct well, "Exalts rule Earth" while the Dragons of Heaven and Sidereals are kind of the exception...

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I'd be shocked if whenever we got Monkey it weren't staff-based. <_<

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As a note on the Lunar Exaltation too, is that it's not like 400 Exaltations are up and ready every single time as soon as possible. If Luna doesn't have anyone around she thinks fits her bill, they aren't getting Exalted. This is why there's usually the vageuly 300-400 Exaltations thing instead of just 400 this edition. It very might be that there are dozens of Exaltations which have not had anyone Luna found worthy to let inherit.

This is a big gamble for Lunars then in context of losing bodies. You get a newbie in replacement, and you don't even really know when you'll ever get...

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Something to note is that the Lunars winning thing isn't undefeated. While Lunars are happy they may have delayed the Realm getting into the West and having set up a weaker presence, they still did it not long ago. (Last couple centuires last I saw). And as the Lunars who remember the First Age pass on, there's probably soemthing long term Lunar elders migh have had. "success" was still like, centuries away. What happens when it's nearly there but everyone who careda bout the original goals has died?

I also think the "inevitabiltiy" is moot a bit in a world where...