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  • Well wasn't Ventrue confirmed to be truly dead? If so, there's an obvious reason why you don't hear about him doing things. In his case, the real question is why didn't his clan collapse into just another bloodline? It suggests that some Ante really likes the Ventrue continuing to be in power for some reason. Who's proping this bloodline up so hard that not only have they not collapsed, they are actually the most powerful "clan" despite having long since ceased to be an actual clan?
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  • CajunKhan
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    So the calculator knows that 2+2=4? That's news to me: I would have thought it as oblivious to the calculations it makes as an abacus or for that matter a rock.
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  • CajunKhan
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    The only problem with that is we really don't know what causes awareness. Let me put it this way: a calculator, so far as I know, doesn't actually know even the most simple math, like 2+2=4, because it doesn't have awareness. Its calculations take place in a vacuum. I do know that 2+2=4, and I don't know why. There doesn't seem to be necessity for awareness. I could do everything mentally I do, have that process be a lifeless calculation, and still do everything I do to further my genes. Awareness doesn't seem to be biologically necessary. And yet, I am aware; I have the most direct evidence for...
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  • What about Dom 5? What does the possessed's aura look like?
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  • CajunKhan
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    All that reminds me of some thoughts I had years ago. We feel pain because we are a nervous system, and so a few nerve cells can trigger the entire system to feel it. We are like a cell version of the Borg that way. But what about cells that don't have this Borglike connection? Do they feel agony when they die, but that pain isn't shared. It's possible that the skin cells in our body are constantly dying in agony, but we are never aware of it because they aren't part of the nervous, and thus their agony never moves past them. They each die in their own private hell as they are pushed up to form...
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  • CajunKhan
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    Surprise morality

    The blood hunt thread got me thinking about something: players tend to assume that elders are all complete sociopaths with absolutely no moral lines. To me that doesn't seem realistic, as in real life even mafioso with huge numbers of kills often have some lines they won't cross, some acts that still morally outrage them. So I was wondering: do you ever punish players for just assuming elders are pure evil? For example, do you ever have a player accumulate boons, try to use those boons to bargain for the right to diablerize someone, only to discover that the Prince is someone who genuinely, morally...
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  • Is it actually canon that a vampire can resist digesting the other vampire's soul after diablerizing him? Because I would tend to think that the beast would just shred anything that is a threat to its own identity.
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  • Path of Warding is also useful.
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  • It would also depend on the Prince's humanity. Devouring and digesting someone's soul is a truly vile act. Keep in mind, just because someone has dropped below the level of humanity where they don't care about murder, doesn't mean they are incapable of genuine moral disgust. You only have to witness what happens to the more loathsome sex-offenders when they are placed into the general prison population to see this. Even a Prince with a 4 humanity may genuinely loath diablerists, politics be damned. It's very possible for a diablerist to accumulate some political favors, think it makes him immune...
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  • Personally I think the reason the original developers gave the Tremere path of blood is that it's the closest to a physical power of the original paths, and back then they tended to give almost every clan at least one mind-control power and one physical power. So they gave the Tremere the path that makes blood-pumping your stats easier as the default path....
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  • CajunKhan
    replied to Ideas for a Sabbat siege.
    Animalism can't do that unless you are talking about 6+ levels. Animalism badly needs a buff, as that is the sort of thing it SHOULD be able to do at player-levels....
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  • It's pretty much one of the three big go-to moves in stories where they play up the vampire as being about mystical, ambiguously wizardlike powers rather than them being feral powerhouses, yes. That version is the root of the Tremere, just as the Nos are rooted in the movie of the same name.
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  • They may not represent Dracula per se, but they do represent the archetype of the vampire as a wizard, and that archetype mostly uses weather control, telekinesis, and some minor situational fire-control, mostly stuff like willing candles to light, often en masse.
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  • The very idea that blood is the stepping-stone path is just something that doesn't work for me. It's just too divorced from the powers that the more mystical versions of novel/movie vampires have. Novel/movie vampires, when they played up as wizard archetypes rather than physical powerhouses or mind-controllers, tend to have weather control, telekinesis, and an extremely limited form of fire control, mainly the ability to make candles spontaneously light. So I'm inclined to make weather control and movement of the mind the readily available paths, and the rest fairly obscure stuff that requires...
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  • In my games Weather Control is the default path, because I like Dracula, and Dracula controlled the weather, he didn't boil people's blood.
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  • CajunKhan
    replied to Unwilling Vinculum
    Yes, happens to shovelheads all the time. It's standard practice to force those who haven't proven themselves to be true Sabbat yet to drink the vaulderie without being allowed to contribute to it. It's why shovelheads have such a high death rate: they care about the Sabbat, but the Sabbat doesn't give a damn about them....
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  • Overall I'd say Tremere. He seems to be an example of the Vampire-As-Dark-Wizard archetype that spawned the Tremere.
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  • What would the "Hotel Transylvania" Dracula be in Masquerade terms?

    What would the "Hotel Transylvania" Dracula be in Masquerade terms?
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  • Does diablerie cost path points, or just humanity?
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