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  • As a storyteller, it isn't hard to deal with. It is called Total Insanity for a reason. You have an NPC get hit with that and they are gonna be incapable of doing much else beyond maintaining their new derangements. They are gibbering wrecks... maybe even catatonic.

    Total Insanity tends to make people basket cases. 'Oh, but that's too powerful!' There are a lot of 5th level Disciplines that are bonkers. If a player is abusing this ability and turning too many people into vegetables, there should be realistic backlash. 'Hey, you just used Total Insanity on the Prince? Good job! With...
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  • Well, it ain't like the mule can argue.



    'Claws of Silk' was a Metis Child of Gaia whose deformity was not having fingernails or toenails. In her breed form she would have soft hairs sprouting in those places, hence her name.

    Ulf 'Eats-the-Troll' was a big, smelly Get who took on a black-hearted fey thing that was slaughtering whole villages of mountain folk. After a close-fought battle that resulted in a death-frenzy, he ended up half-eating the twisted body of the unclean faerie. It almost killed him, and now he has permanent blisters and psoriasis riddling...
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  • I giggled.

    On another note, I was thinking a phoenix or dragon is going to be stronger than a ghoul. If balance is a concern, bygones might be a bit too beastly for the B team....
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  • Yep. Freak Legion and Possessed both feature rules for making Fomori. Rules for Kami, Drones, and Gorgons can be found in the latter, also....
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  • A Garou with True Faith is silly, because True Faith is a weird wonky stat and Garou already have another, better (for them) stat called Gnosis that represents their spiritual connections to the Goddess. There certainly is room for syncretism within WtA spirituality; the Wise Guys camp, for example, equate Saints with Gain spirits, and there was that order of Black Fury nuns that were embedded in Abrahamic faiths around the world. Regardless of how you flavor those beliefs, though, they all still knowingly served Gaia.

    Having a Garou walk into the umbra, talk to a squirrel jaggling,...
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  • I have had players like that. I don't really put up with them anymore. Some folks only seem to be capable of interfacing with make-believe worlds using violence, and I kinda find that half-sad, half-scary. Even in a game as messy as Werewolf, there are people and things you don't want to kill, and some players hate accepting the consequences of their bloodthirsty actions.

    I have found that everyone is usually happier if the psycho ends up playing out their ultraviolent tendencies in GTA rather than WtA.



    A-are you me?

    Seriously though, after...
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  • Yep. The 'gate' for magic powers in Werewolf is social, rather than a limit imposed by hard rules. If a Cliath was somehow found worthy of learning a higher level gift, they can. Some storytellers are particularly lenient on this point and make it easy for spirits to teach higher ranked gifts to lower rank werewolves. In any case, though, learning rank 5 gifts (or made up higher ranking gifts) is a big deal....
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  • I would allow for rank 6 Garou to take 1st level Planetary Incarna gifts from Rage Across the Heavens. :P

    Seriously though, some rank 5 planetary gifts would be great fits for Legendary Garou, like Cleansing Flame, Grand Gesture, and Earth Heal.
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  • Wow, fuck whatever I was saying. Undead gods riding around in frogs is way better....
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  • This is debatable. Even if vampire hunting pogroms were sparked, arguably the Nosferatu would be among the clans best positioned to avoid it. They already avoid humans directly, many of their lairs are difficult to reach, and their disciplines involve stealth. Such a Masquerade-destroying plan is also risky. 4th gen Nictuku are potent, but if [Ravnos] could be destroyed, you bet the Nictuku could be undone by other potent supernatural threats. Expending them on the hope that the humans then indirectly kill all your progeny seems like the ultimate hail Mary.

    Even if your assertion...
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  • That feel when powerful monsters can't exist unless they have achieved world domination....
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  • Yeah, that is how it was for me also. I watched one and had to go do something else, haha....
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  • You want revenants ravishing folks? Play VtM. That is clearly what the joke is referencing, not some other fan made game. Any walking corpse can be rightly called a revenant: Kindred, Risen, those Asian vampire things I don't use, ect.
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  • I mean, he does, but Mr. Pickles is rife with bestiality references. I'd like to think that Pentex-backed cartoons would look a lot like Mr. Pickles. That stuff is unpleasant to watch by design and makes my soul feel bad....
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  • That hardly strikes me as a 'typical' case. Most Banes possess hosts in order to wreak havoc on the other side of the Gauntlet. Going through the trouble of indwelling a mortal only to be yanked back onto the other side seems odd.

    If I were a Wyrm-sorcerer, it seems like a pretty round-about way of making a warrior minion. Again, not impossible, just strange.
    Also, not sure the Fomori in question could even pose a direct threat to a spirit. The weapons of a Gorehound are still pretty much just physical blades, which won't do much unless the spirit has manifested in the physical...
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  • Aw, thanks. Given the pack's prior history with the Wyrm-tainted items, they knew such taint could be faked... I expected them to talk to the people driving the wagons in some capacity, but they decided that the Talon's kill 'em all approach was better. They set up a really brutal ambush and the pack Galliard, the Bone Gnawer, whipped up a bomb out of animal manure, black powder and some odds and ends. I was kinda blindsided, actually.

    I do know my NPCs motivations pretty well, but I was still struggling with how to come up with a believable political response, if you will. This thread...
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  • Yeah, I think that would work well!...
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  • Fomori only exist on our side of the Gauntlet (unless they have some ability to cross over) and spirits generally do not risk their own essence in order to fight fleshy foes directly. It could happen, I guess, but the circumstances would likely be bizarre....
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  • Yeah, early Wild West, spring of 1841 to be exact. I am really not concerned about ratios. There can be a lot of werewolves relative to the modern era (because they haven't died off yet), and then there might be only a few because all the Texas Moonbridges failed back in the 1700s and reinforcements have been scant. I can justify whatever numbers I need to get the job done.

    Aya Tari I am not pitting all Gnawers versus all Talons. Two neighboring septs have come to blows, and while the Swarm outnumber the Talons, the lupus Garou have some very powerful spirit allies. If violence escalates...
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    Last edited by The Laughing Stranger; 03-18-2017, 01:15 PM.

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  • Well, the way I envisioned it was if there was going to be inter-sept warfare, that the Gnawers would view the pack as solidly on the side of the Red Talons. I doubt the soon-to-be embattled Swarm is going to hunt them down... but if they are foolish enough to pop up during the carnage they are going to be treated as allies of the Talons, and thus, enemies of the Swarm.


    Thanks! I am certainly trying to make them out to be 'black and white' rather than 'stupid savages,' but most of them have little empathy and even less patience. Their own kin have been shot and poisoned for...
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    Last edited by The Laughing Stranger; 03-18-2017, 03:10 AM.

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