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  • The Fading (Forgetting and Undoing) or why has it slipped into the Mists in C20?

    I just finished reading C20, and I was surprised, to say the least, to find that there is no section on the effects of Banality and the Mists on changelings. There is, sure, a new section on how the Mists may affect changelings whose Banality is higher than their Glamour, but nothing on the Fading, and its two manifestations, the Forgetting and the Undoing.

    There are some occurrences of these words (a quick search using the Tools in Acrobat help find them, since there is no Index... I hope there will be one in the printed book), for instance on p. 366 where the Fading is qualified...
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    Last edited by mattboggan; 07-15-2017, 09:05 AM.

  • mattboggan
    replied to Treasure question...
    I have never considered that you need to roll any Trait or spend Glamour in order to activate a Treasure. Never was it said in the previous editions. Treasures were so precious an valuable because they were naturally enchanted items, potent with Glamour and the enchantments of the Dreaming, and so could affect even non-enchanted humans, enchanting them (as Saint Michael pointed out in the thread on the kinain, p. 147 of C:tD 2nd ed.).
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  • Your Tuatha godlings look very much like the Fae in Changeling: the Lost.
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  • mattboggan
    replied to Small cantrip question
    It depends on the cantrip. Some can be used as extended actions (i.e. cast multiple times to cumulate successes), while others only supersede each casting. The description of each cantrip gives you the information....
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  • mattboggan
    replied to Accessing the Dreaming
    Ditto for me.

    I maintain that during the Interregnum the Dreaming was not accessible (it has been stressed enough in previous sourcebooks, especially all those concerning the sidhe).

    The analogy with Columbus is not working here: the Europeans didn't know that there was a land out there (or a way to reach Asia) while the changelings knew the Dreaming existed. So they had access to the "technology" AND the impetus to use it....
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  • mattboggan
    started a topic Accessing the Dreaming

    Accessing the Dreaming

    The new edition seems to depart from established wisdom about the ways to access the Dreaming and the history of the fae.

    In previous editions and sourcebooks, it was widely held that after the Shattering the Dreaming was mostly inaccessible as all trods were shut down. This is why the knowledge of many Arts (such as Dream-Craft) was lost up until the Resurgence which, with its influx of Glamour, revivified and reopened trods.

    At first glance, C20 seems to follow this trend, since we can read, p. 300:

    "For the better part of 600 years, the Dreaming and...
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  • To answer your question, here is the relevant section in the C20 book (p. 275):

    "Nightmare appears below the character’s Willpower on the character sheet, and is only tracked as a pool from 0 to 10. Players mark Nightmare from left to right, and incur Nightmare when they botch a Glamour or cantrip roll (adds one Nightmare), Unleash an Art (add one Nightmare before rolling to Unleash), and by rolling 10s on Nightmare dice (+1 Nightmare for each 10 rolled)."...
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  • mattboggan
    replied to Kinain Questions
    I don't remember this. Could you specify a page number?...
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  • mattboggan
    started a topic The Mists of Forgetfulness

    The Mists of Forgetfulness

    I think there is an error on p. 304a with the chart for the Mists of Forgetfulness for leaving the Dreaming. The Timpe Lapse for 2 Glamour (Faded Dreams) is 1 month whereas the rest of the time lapses progress in a neat order. If I compare with the chart p. 127 in Dreams & Nightmares, I see that the Time Lapse for 2 Glamour was instantaneous.

    Also, I was wondering how you are all going to apply the new Mists effects as presented pp 270-1? Is there a specific "trigger" that you think would justify applying one effect to a changeling?
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  • Both are really fine. I guess I prefer the black version.

    Also, on pg. 2 of your sheet, experience is misspelled (there an extra "a").

    Thanks for this....
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  • mattboggan
    replied to Fae Realm
    Dreamstuff would be under Dweomer of Glamour (Fae 5) in my understanding.
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  • mattboggan
    started a topic Fae Realm

    Fae Realm

    I continue in my overview of C20 as I read it, and react to the changes brought, and to the changes that were not made.

    I would have liked the Fae Realm to be changed to

    Fae 1: Manifold Chimera

    Fae 2: Hearty Commoner

    Fae 3: Lofty Noble

    Fae 4: Elusive Gallain

    Fae 5: Dweomer of Glamour.

    My rational is this: chimera are much less complex, more simple, creatures of the Dreaming than fae, whether commoner or noble.

    Don't you agree?
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  • So maybe in this order: Protocol, Grandeur, Dictum, Ward and Geas?
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  • Very good point. I will have to chew on this....
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  • mattboggan
    replied to Unleashing
    Yeah, I guess that would probably make more sense.

    But as I said, I also like the idea, if the idea means that to bring forth the power of the Dreaming in the Autumn-turning-into-Winter world is really a costly and difficult feat, and also quite contrary to the idea of the Changeling Way.

    My take on this is that I would really, really hate that Unleashing becomes a "last desperate measure" that is, in fact, used every session in a story as players would prefer to Unleash rather than to bother with casting cantrips.

    Also, there is the idea that fae...
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  • Dictum as Sovereign 4 (and Hardened Heart as Winter 2)?

    I am wondering just why.

    In other games, the supernatural ability to give orders and be obeyed (with limitations: no self-harming to harm to loved ones) is not considered so powerful that it justifies a level 4 in Discipline or Gifts or, here, Arts.

    Besides, I liked the precision on previous editions about what a "simple command" is: two words. Yes, it means that you have to phrase your order with only two words. When it is more elaborate, then it is a Geas.

    Also, when you consider that Winter 2 allows to resist the effects of Dictum, Sovereign...
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  • mattboggan
    started a topic Unleashing

    Unleashing

    Okay, I have to say that I am no fan of Unleashing. I didn't like it back then in DA: Fae, and I dislike it even more now (as all things that come from DA: Fae into Changeling).

    So, I am deeply reluctant to use it in my game. Yet, I find the idea of a fae being able to summon the power of the Dreaming into the Waking Lands quite appropriate, and I have myself toyed with this idea and experienced with it in my previous chronicles. I didn't go further than "a knowledge of an Art gives you an affinity, a kind of supernatural understanding of the aspects associated with that Art....
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  • mattboggan
    replied to 1001 changeling plots
    A man is walking down the Champs-Elysées in Paris. It's night and cars try to avoid him, sending manic beams of light in the night. The man acts insane, looks like a tramp, and walks as if he's drunk. Police cars sirens are echoing and rapidly approaching. In fact, this man is in the throes of his Dream-Dance. He experiences flashes of prophetic scenes as well as visions of Arcadia assaulted by Nightmarish forces, spawning ephemeral chimera around him, some of them being Wyrd, which throw the drivers of the cars into more disarray. Soon, there is a huge traffic jam on the famous avenue. The man,...
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  • mattboggan
    replied to Wyrd and recordings
    Or it could be argued that cameras can't catch the faerie aspects of chimera or changelings Calling upon the Wyrd, that the Mists protect humans from even this, that you need special apparatus (like those made by the nockers) to film or photograph the Dreaming. So, even a sidhe riding up a chimerical horse and the sidhe having Call Upon the Wyrd, the horse using a Redes to become real would just show a handsome man riding a perfectly normal (if beautiful) horse.
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