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  • g3taso
    replied to Pre-made NPC
    I try to keep NPCs simple. Here's a sample Gangrel. If he remains in the story, I might flesh him out.

    Bubba, Gangrel Sabbat Ductus: Physical 3, Social 1, Mental 2 (for simplicity, 3 in all physical traits, etc)
    Background: Looks like a true Nordic berserker, over 6'4". Dressed in motorcycle leathers and combat boots. Known for his fondness for decapitating cainites with his piano-wire garotte.
    Celerity 2, Potence 3, Fortitude 3, Protean 4

    This guy has five other pack members who will get similar basic stats.
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  • g3taso
    replied to Another Way to Blood Bond
    I read that. It was the basis for me starting this thread....
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  • g3taso
    replied to Another Way to Blood Bond
    One question: If you don't see much sense in this, why respond?

    Perhaps I should actually put forth my intent behind my question. I haven't played Sabbat so I'm not completely familiar with Vaulderie. However, the breaking of blood bonds and avoiding the whole "man crush" problems of bonding sound really amazing. So I looked it up to see how the ritus worked, and I noticed there wasn't a requirement. So I decided to ask here.

    One scenario has popped into my brain though. The possibility of breaking someone's blood bonds sounds especially neat way for a Sabbat...
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  • g3taso
    replied to Another Way to Blood Bond
    I am unaware of any minimum number of contributors to the Vaulderie, so apparently a pack priest can do this with only his blood in the cup. Can anyone tell me if there is a minimum number of casters in the Vaulderie that perhaps I just missed?

    @KRB: Sorry I was unclear I should have said "So I puncture my wrist the cough up the blood, and cast the incantation over it before giving that hapless captive vampire a draught. He establishes a vinculum of whatever strength. As the nights pass I do this several times, inching that Vinculum higher and higher so eventually his vinculum...
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  • He likes big balls, and he cannot lie...
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  • g3taso
    replied to Unwilling Vinculum
    The Allegiance Ritus is the one where a newcomer doesn't contribute blood to the vinculum but drinks it.

    Is there a published minimum for members to contribute to a vaulderie? I can't find a minimum, and if there isn't a published minimum that means a sole vampire can establish vinculum with someone who drinks. Can anyone confirm if there is a minimum number of participants to do the vaulderie rite?
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  • A Lasombra (or perhaps Kiasyd) might have a creepy, lovecraftian Sanctum Sanctorum, or a chantry for a cabal. Here's a partial description of a facility like that (from my Abyss Mystic character)

    ".. finished in dark stone, accented with with elegant and intricate carvings. It is furnished with occult & artistic works alongside intricate mechanisms & individual pieces defying ready classification. Reports of impossible perspectives, non-Euclidian angles, rooms opening into differing locations or feelings of being continually watched have been reported regularly by...
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  • g3taso
    replied to Unwilling Vinculum
    With that in mind, it seems you could just make a Vinculum chalice, put your blood in it and force someone to drink (Dominate to forget). So they have vinculum with you but you do not have a reciprocating one....
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  • g3taso
    started a topic Unwilling Vinculum

    Unwilling Vinculum

    I haven't played a Sabbat character, so I've never had to deal with Vinculums. I wonder if it is possible to establish Vinculum with someone against their will? I can see restraining a vampire, taking his blood and establishing a vinculum and just as swiftly using Dominate to erase their memory of it. So old Fred the vamp isn't seen for a week or so after some nice Camarilla gang war and then turns up with hazy memories of being badly mauled and holing up in the ground for a week to recover some aggravated damage. But now Fred has a secret, special friend.
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  • g3taso
    replied to Obtenebration Uses?
    I always enjoyed the mental image of them sprouting from Tenebrous. No mechanical advantage as compared to having them pop out of convenient shadows elsewhere. It just looks cool, like a big D&D beholder.
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  • g3taso
    replied to Obtenebration Uses?
    Just as plainly. Where in the description of Tenebrous Form, in either fluff or mechanics, advise us that this is not the case? In fact, the description says "At this level, the Kindred's mastery of darkness is so extensive that she may physically become it. Upon activation of this power, the vampire becomes an inky, amoeboid patch of shadow. "...
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  • g3taso
    replied to Obtenebration Uses?
    AzraelFirestorm and others:
    Actually, Obtenebration has something like a war form but creepier. Not Black Metamorphosis; sorry, it's cool but more a niche product. Here's what you do:
    1. Throw down a Shroud, then spend blood to assume Tenebrous Form. Now invoke tentacles once (or twice) and the tentacles come out of your shadowy (and formless) body. What you have left is an amoeboid horror with 6+ arms that can mow down opponents like a chainsaw. Of course if you are fighting a Lasombra this is less effective. Shroud means you can basically go after non-Lasombra with the reasonable...
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  • g3taso
    replied to Obtenebration Uses?
    Having them act as a dodge/block/parry for an attack that would normally come to the creator would be awesome.
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  • g3taso
    replied to Obtenebration Uses?
    I like the idea of pulling down a building around someone. Bet they don't see that one coming
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  • g3taso
    started a topic Obtenebration Uses?

    Obtenebration Uses?

    I love Obtenebration. Some people call it overpowered, but I feel rather it is overly specialized and maybe there is more utility to be had from it.

    So my question is : How can Obtenebration be more useful than being "the tentacle guy" and occasional teleporter? How can he be more useful? I'm not proposing power changes, but rather expansion of uses.

    1. Another thread suggested using tentacles to climb. I like that idea personally, sort of a dark spiderman.
    2. "Get Over Here" aka Scorpion from the Mortal Combat movie. Spear someone with a tentacle...
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  • g3taso
    replied to Making Cainite Dogsbodies
    Counter intuitive? More likely poor writing. I was thinking of the Indoctrination skill from the Freak Legion supplement. Dominate 3 to remove past knowledge in conjunction with blood bond / vaulerie (while removing all knowledge of those subjects I don't want him to have) goes a long way toward the Malkavian "Restructure" power. Just longer to do.
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  • g3taso
    replied to Revenant Animals
    As I recall Nefertiti of the Setites also embraced a number of snakes, and there is a ritual called Soul of the Earth that allows you to embrace animals.
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  • g3taso
    replied to Making Cainite Dogsbodies
    You are right. I looked it up. That creates a complication. Might be simpler to erase every memory he has prior to the night we grab and stake him. Hmmmm....

    That idea has some merit. Lemme throw this out there. A total amnesiac with a full Bond. Many to all of his skills but no backgrounds. No knowledge of the bond or vaulderie as part of the package. Of course he'd fixate on me, I'm the only thing that matters. He'd make a great servant, but no Contacts or other backgrounds. He'd make an Igor but not Commander Riker, if you take my meaning.
    Any ideas on how to refine or improve...
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    Last edited by g3taso; 09-13-2017, 06:40 PM. Reason: I phrased it better

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  • g3taso
    replied to Making Cainite Dogsbodies
    Breaking Vaulderie could be a problem, but not insurmountable. The texts mention that while Vaulderie will quickly corrode a blood bond, the opposite is also true (but takes a lot longer).
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  • g3taso
    started a topic Making Cainite Dogsbodies

    Making Cainite Dogsbodies

    Recently, I have had reason in our campaign to have a grudge for a Tzimisce who has been inconvenient to our coterie. How would you turn a captured cainite to your service?
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