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  • Watcher
    replied to ​Birthright Questions
    That sort of goes both ways though. Just as much as the act of creation is done by beings of unfathomable power, there are also beings of equal destructive power. Shiva should be able to destroy Relics absolutely, he is The Destroyer. He can and does destroy all of creation multiple times, which includes Relics in it....
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  • Watcher
    replied to Scion Mythos officially
    I believe you might be misinformed, if Ra blinks reality ends. The Netjer defend the sun to the death because if the sun goes out with the death of Ra, everything that ever has been, or is never has. It all returns to nothing....
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    Last edited by Watcher; 01-14-2019, 01:46 AM.

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  • Watcher
    replied to Scion Mythos officially
    I won't argue about the inclusion of a Mythos Pantheon and how it has very nasty implications about things, about how it puts legitimate deities of real world religions up against a collection of fictional figures many of whom are based off these real figures (Nodens, Dagon, etc) and were popularized by a man who thought that the people who worshiped these real deities were backwards, horrible, and 'savage.' There is no argument there, it's plain as day why that is just very.... much an issue. Maybe they could resolve it, but what I would instead like to focus on is the themes of the two genres...
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  • Watcher
    replied to Scion Mythos officially
    Not to get into the details, but Lovecraft was so racist that he was considered the lunatic racist in a time period where being racist was very normal. He was so racist that other racists in his own era thought he was way too racist. You can notice it in how a lot of the fears expressed in his works are about 'interbreeding' between different 'species' and so on and so forth....
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  • Watcher
    replied to Scion Mythos officially
    I have spoken on this at length why this is distressing in the Discord, and all I will repeat here is I am intensely worried as this goes against what Neall has promised us Scion 2e would be about....
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  • Watcher
    replied to Scion: Dragon in the works
    I don't understand how 'Dragons' could possibly be a third faction since Scion 2e has pointed out that the Titan War doesn't even make sense in the first place.

    Add to that that the idea that 'Dragons' are cross-cultural is intense Eurocentrism, this makes me very very worried about the direction things are going. I hope that this is crossed wires internally, because otherwise this sounds like a repeat of 1e and breaking from what Neall has promised about 2e.
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  • Watcher
    replied to [2E] New Purviews
    Yeah, as Glamour says, the problem with a Magic Purview is that you don't need a Magic Purview, you need several hundred. There is no consistent idea of what 'magic' is from Pantheon to Pantheon, it is fundamentally defined by that specific cultural group. The methods of magic used by the different Pantheons are so fundamentally different, and do different things that it cannot easily be made into a single Purview.

    However, Pantheon Specific Purviews tend to be the realm of these special culturally specific areas of magic. The Norse PsP, Wyrd, is explicitly modeled after Seiðr as...
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    Last edited by Watcher; 01-10-2019, 05:55 PM.

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  • Watcher
    replied to [2E] Bogovi - Slavic Pantheon
    Unfortunately for real world sources I believe the only Primary Documents are two manuscripts. One, Chronica Slavorum, by Helmold of Bosau who was obviously very biased in his writings, and the Russian Primary Chronicle which gives zero details asides from names. As far as myself or anyone else has been able to uncover these are the only primary documents to deal with pre-Christian Slavic deities, with the majority of information that is on the internet being based on modern-era nationalistic fiction developed in an attempt to eradicate regional cultures and create a false hegemony of culture...
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  • Watcher
    replied to [2E] Bogovi - Slavic Pantheon
    I wish you the best of luck dealing with the Slavic sources! They are... notoriously challenging with less resources than the infamous Nemetondevos, and riddled with modern era nationalistic fictions sadly.

    They were first proposed in Scion: Companion for 1e, but nothing short of a simple series of names was given as part of a very simple guide for how to build your own Pantheon. I highly suggest you ignore everything in it, Scion: Companion for 1e is... not... good for its research. I think the Túatha Dé Danann section has a total of four sentences that are totally true statements...
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  • Watcher
    replied to Other supernatural creatures
    There totally are Vampires, Werewolves, Fey, Changelings, Demons, and Angels in Scion, though not exactly in the modern 'WoD' sense if that makes sense? There are hundreds of different mythological creatures that are modernly 'grouped' as Vampires in the West, similarly with Werewolves. An individual Pantheon might even have two or three different creatures in their texts that fit as such, blood drinking creatures of the night, or wolf-like shapeshifters. So, while both exist in the world of Scion, they absolutely are mythic. The Túatha Dé Danann raise undead that have to be killed by having...
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  • Watcher
    replied to Everyday life with Gods
    Myself and Maitrecorbo both referenced it....
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  • Watcher
    replied to Everyday life with Gods
    I think you may be misreading that section Wyrd, what the authors are implying by their use of "wasn't" in that sentence is not that there was a Masqurade concealing this fact, but that it was different from our real world. It is saying that the Roman ethnocide of the trans-alpine Gauls was more than what it was in our world, that it had a further divine implication as a result of the historical action. This divine implication was even believed in our real world. The people thought Caesar had divine backing, they knew they were engaging in religious conflict, that's why all the cult...
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    Last edited by Watcher; 12-24-2018, 02:25 AM.

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