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  • Croakamancer
    replied to Exalted: Essence
    It's sharp. I'm not over the moon about it, still bitter about Heirs not being here yet, so yet another thing in the queue... even if it's a different team, salt in the wound, you know? But it's a good idea and I'm probably gonna pick it up. Exalted: Gateway Drug edition!
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  • Too late to respond to actual discussion (im on UK time) but Godbound got at least two more books. A gazetteer and one with some new Words and guidance on making more...
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  • Hehe. Wasn't Godbound created largely as a reaction against Ex3? Its core has quite a few.... specifically 'you can do Exalted with this' bits.

    FWIW, I actually agree with a fair portion of this, though less the 'cosmic stuff was just bolted onto Exalted' bit. I'd categorize it more as just the editions focusing on different aspects of the story that were there in both iterations. Less so Devil Tigers specifically, but the setting always had the war against the Primordials and the legacy of that as big, important and crucial. I was turned off by Ex1 in large part because of its focus...
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  • Croakamancer
    replied to RWBY volume 7
    Agreed!
    It's smart for Watts. It's self destructive for Jaques, to the point I'm surprised he agreed to it. He was keeping those people in work to try and stay on their good side. The people are going to be about as angry with him as they are with Ironwood, right? (Does Watts have some specific leverage over him, or is he just generically scary?)
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  • Having Jiara in the setting chapter and referenced in WFHW doesn't help with that impression - establishing the setting for the Solar sigs, having them interract with Mnemon - just on the books, I'm not sure anyone would get the cypher thing....
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  • Wiz, I love ya, but woow I disagree. 1e Eye and 2e Eye, to me, are basically the same character - only 2e frames him with less reverence. Which is something that I like with the Ghosts of the First Age angle - one of the Deathlords being this broken guy who is lashing out not really thinking it through... I joke about him, but feel he has potential as a straight up tragic figure, rather than the brooding gothic villain type.

    Still. Not as bad as 1e Lover! I never expected the 2e version to be an improvement on something.

    @general health of the game: It feels like Ex3...
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  • That said, theming the Deathknights around the Lords rather than Oblivion is potentially a dilution. Past comments have given me the vibe that Ex3 wants to downplay exterior threats to the world, to the point that it's no longer clear if the physical Void is an actual place or not. So I'm worried Abyssals won't be able to match Solar perfection thematics and might just come across as mini Deathlords.

    Then again, trying to tie all nine into the charmset might help keep it broad at least?

    *shrugs* We're too far out for serious mechanical concerns. I'm more worried about...
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  • I'm absolutely biased here - I paid heavily for a charm slot in Heirs to celebrate a game and my best friend's character. Went in as hard as I could because I wanted that, and to support the new dev team. But I held my tongue when Lunars hit KS, I feel all these complaints can basically apply that far back, but was trying to be reasonable - a book takes time to make, it's important to keep the line going, all the same stuff Blaque said. Exigents being in drafts and feeling likely to launch in KS before Heirs hits is just a bridge too far to me. That's two more Kickstarters that use stretch goals...
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  • I know it's not 1 for 1, that there's work overlap, many things in the queue at once. I get that. But Lunars went from beginning to completion after Heirs, WFHW was put through editing and layout, and Exigents is looking ready for draft if the KS hits first. That's a lot of work, and this stuff with Exigents and Lunars absolutely required dev time. I find it hard to buy that Crucible and Eight Directions went with no attention from the Devs either. Those things got attention to flourish and build the queue while Heirs sat on the vine.

    That ain't a crime. That ain't fraud. There's...
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  • Here's the ultimate question for me. Does it compound? Because with this turnaround of splats relative to companions you're going to end up with more of the latter in the queue and subsequent ones taking longer. Heirs began to some degree after WFHW wrapped, took us through that hitting publication and through Exigents getting first draft. And only now is MFS starting to get work. So how long till MFS hits? Unless there's a big change up Exigents will lead to another companion book too, that'll be in the queue. Will we get MFS before 2021 and Sidereals? Heirs was the only companion in the queue...
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  • Yeah, I know. It makes sense to have multiple things in the queue. If it weren't for Exigents I'd probably be less bitter. But we've had complete draft text for Lunars, three new books enter the queue, one a fatsplat, and the Realm complete all since Heirs was announced. Without being able to look inside the Devs heads or actively follow what specifically they're currently working on, it feels like Heirs was the backburner project - especially since an entire splat book will seemingly make it all the way through the process before it arrives (Lunars)...
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  • I'll join this particular chorus briefly. I'm also mostly waiting for Heirs. And I'm looking leerily at Exigents moving up the development queue. At this rate, I feel there's a very real chance of us hitting an Exigents KS with Heirs still unreleased. People will be encouraged to pledge for backer charms, rally behind stretch goals to build a companion, when there are two already lodged in the production queue. That seems excessive - I was willing to be a little lenient with the Lunars KS because they were still figuring this stuff out, but a repeat performance of that?

    I'm actually...
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  • Croakamancer
    replied to You enter a Malfean bazaar...
    2: A tangled web of threads, set across a brass ring. The shopkeep tells you it's a prayer catcher - place it in the mortal world, and the prayers of those nearby will never reach the ears of heaven. It comes with a bottle for patrons to store the captured prayers, to be drunk at a later date. Quite a delicacy in the right Malfean circles.
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  • Croakamancer
    replied to Dynast Abolitionist
    My reaction or your point? I'll admit my reaction is a simplification - the writers don't literally use that one crutch every time the Realm is given a weakness. But it comes up a lot when the time comes to discuss a more headbanging issue of how the Realm is run, and I'm just wondering how this collection of hotheads lasted seven months as a unified government, never mind seven hundred years.



    Is this a joke? I don't get the humour in it. Just made me mildly more annoyed that you're accusing me of piracy.



    That is the most... extensive way...
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  • Croakamancer
    replied to Dynast Abolitionist
    "Restricting the power of the Houses" AKA the same reason given for any self destructive decision the Empress made. :P

    I just don't buy it. I don't buy that it's more profitable to import slave labour en masse like this. I don't buy that slave labour is so ubiquitous and needed that every single project on the isle needs Cynis' approval to go ahead (That's as dumb as the changes 3E makes to the Iselsi, but side issue.) There's nothing about the way the Realm wages war that requires large numbers of captives - if you take all the people out of the satrapy, whose left to...
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  • Croakamancer
    replied to Toys in Creation…
    Honestly, teddies are one I'd personally avoid, given their cultural links to a real world figure/historical point. I'm more inclined to run with carved figures, with maybe soft woven dolls for the young or those in need of comfort. More specifics and form are going to be locally dependent - I could see the Guild sponsoring dolls of the Hierarchs to try and give themselves a bit of an image boost for giving toys to children, whereas in the Realm kids may get either abstract dragon toys, or ones with a militirstic slant (Gateway sets being the prime example.).
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  • Croakamancer
    replied to Dynast Abolitionist
    I'm not sure how accurate this is? Haven't gone through the Realm in depth but just on the direct section about slavery as a state, it doesn't really say what they do, just going into the mechanics of how it works. These all seem like logical extemporizations of what slavery on the isle might mean...

    But walking back a bit. Does chattel slavery really make sense on the Isle anyway?

    I'm not asking for 'is this canon', more curious about the logical chain here. The Realm has a large serf class, who are taught as an article of faith that it's their religious duty to toil...
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  • Croakamancer
    replied to Dynast Abolitionist
    Heh. I took a glance at it and I'm more confused to be honest (AFK, proper engagement later)...
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  • Croakamancer
    replied to Dynast Abolitionist
    Yes, but the position of cashier is widespread. As is slave tutors for dynasts, that's standard until they hit primary school. Slave nannys are standard too.

    Widespread educated slavery on the isle is an important point here, mostly because it's likely to be at the forefront of abolitionist thinking in context. To repurpose your metaphor - you are unlikely to have much interaction with a stocker, but the fact that the store has a cashier is someone you talk to, someone you might strike up a friendly conversation with. Ditto educated household slaves - it's a lot easier to see them...
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  • Wirric Stanton - one part Roman Torchwick, two parts Shou Tucker, sprinkle with Guilt Complex.
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