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  • Arcanist
    replied to The Anthroplogy of Magic
    The bolded is one of the reasons we are going to keep disagreeing. I have spent time and money studying Anthropology because I believe that culture is important. I studied the anthropology of religion and magic because I wanted a greater understanding of how other cultures see the sacred. I want to understand the cultures of others because I find the diversity of the human experience to be a beautiful thing. I do not see religion as a "pissing contest" with a "winner" any more than I see culture as a "pissing contest" with a "winner".

    Now, if...
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  • Arcanist
    replied to The Anthroplogy of Magic
    I went with Mithraism as my example because it was a wide-spread Mystery Cult that became very popular without becoming State Theology, and yet it still possessed legal protections under Roman law that were actually rather unique. The only other example I can think of without doing some serious research is Judaism, which is not exactly a Mystery Cult, and whose legal protections were hard-fought and hard-won. The Roman empire tended to view Mystery Cults, especially practices with apparently Egyptian heritage, with no small amount of suspicion. The problem with saying that starting independent...
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  • Arcanist
    replied to The Anthroplogy of Magic
    Unfortunately, one of the infuriating things of trying to study Mystery Cults is that, for whatever reason, the laws put in place by the Greek and Roman governments regarding the secrecy of the Mysteries, and the internal belief systems of Mystery Cults that made the experiential component very important, seem to have worked spectacularly well. There is next to nothing written about the actual Mysteries themselves. What little we have is initiates like Plato winking at the rituals and discussing them in vague symbology, and Late Roman Christian writers trying to condemn the Mysteries because some...
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  • Arcanist
    replied to The Anthroplogy of Magic
    Michael you do make a good point, since for the most part I am avoiding bringing in actual Supernal Magic, which changes dynamics quite a bit, because as much as the Awakened are their own extensive subculture, and they make their own shadow societies, they are still humans who grew up in cultures with complex ideas about magic, and therefore methods and theories of Anthropological research can still be applied to them. I am coming at this mostly from an Anthropological perspective and doing the groundwork of the inspiration. I'll get to the nitty gritty specifics of Mage: The Awakening in a later...
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  • Arcanist
    replied to Building a Legend
    I think, just think, mind you, that it's actually the Beast Player's Guide, equivalent to Flowers of Hell. I could be remembering incorrectly.

    EDIT: Nope. Looks like I was wrong. It is a quickstart.
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  • Arcanist
    replied to Demon Ages
    Hmm... I wonder if a Demon who cashes in on a Soul Pact with an Offspring of some stripe suffers any of the conventional backlash for buying the Souls of supernatural beings? Could they learn new Embeds this way, I wonder? Would it do wonky things to their Cipher? Well, great, now I have a ton of plot hooks percolating in my brain.
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  • Arcanist
    replied to The Anthroplogy of Magic
    The endorsements are very kind guys, thank-you. This is now my second most-liked post, which is a nice pat on the back suggesting I actually picked something up in Anthropology. I'm just hoping that people will find all this stuff useful. Anyways, here's a link to a thread in which I did some rather extensive analysis of two of the more rigidly ritualistic Orders in terms of Initiation Rituals, and outlined the basics of ritual process. It's a relatively fun read, if I do say so myself.

    Right, so, the Orders. First thing you need to know about Mages is, because they primarily adhere...
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  • Arcanist
    replied to The Anthroplogy of Magic
    Depends, really. I haven't assembled a particularly massive collection of readings myself, and most works that I have had the access to generally focus more on modern neopaganism and other more esoteric New Religious Movements than they do with ancient practices, but there are a couple books I can think of off the top of my head that would be useful.

    James Frazer's The Golden Bough is basically one of the seminal works in the field, but Frazer was a comparativist, which means that even if the work is technically sound and records a ton of data it tends to be... reductive, because...
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  • Arcanist
    started a topic The Anthroplogy of Magic

    The Anthroplogy of Magic

    Hello! I'm your friendly neighbourhood Anthropology student, and in the past year I took a course called Myth, Magic, and Shamanism. This class was meant to teach the basics of religious anthropology, with a focus on the weird and wonderful world of the supernatural, the sacred supernatural, and the people who have to handle it in their respective cultures. So, with that said, let's define a few things moving forwards.

    Religious Specialists

    MAGIC: The methods with which a person can compel the supernatural to behave in certain ways.

    MAGICIAN: Religious specialist
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  • Okay, so, bad news. Spring term at my university is kicking my butt, and I'm digging in to counterattack with my writing skills. Good news, I've learned more about Golems and their actual history in Real World mythology, mysticism, and folklore than I have in the last who knows how long prepping for this game. Feel like I could go out, get me a huge slab of clay, and inscribe a Tammuz.

    ArchonAres no rolls necessary, this is purely a character building scene at the moment, and we're about to get a fairly heavy does of PlotTM

    Haberdasher, Caladriu, Wormwood the update is...
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  • The Forks

    Adonis has never really mingled with his Lineage here before, but he certainly wasn't expecting them to all be so... different. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but would you really want to see through the gazes that had crafted such a beautiful and grotesque chorus? There is a man built to be the ideal for certain men, built not for love, but for adoration, a muscle-bound hulk ready to burst his skin, folding carefully the paper in his hand over and over until it becomes something new. There is an androgynous child with curled ringlets, a perfect wig sewn into their...
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  • Personally I'd just convert Primal Urge dots bought into dots of Gnosis if the Wolf-Blooded character with the Primal Instincts Tell ever Awakened. I'd be predisposed to making them a Thyrsus, though I suppose other Paths could potentially fit, but the Primal Urge, as a concept, would suggest to me Gnosis that fits the Thyrsus perspective of the world. Not sure I would do if the character wasn't going to be a Thyrsus though. Probably still have Primal Urge convert to Gnosis. Not very fun if the player sinks all that XP into their Supernatural Resistance Trait only for it to be rendered useless...
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  • Arcanist
    replied to Summoning Spirits
    Check out the CofD 2E corebook. In the section about Ephemeral Beings it provides rules on how to summon, research, abjure, banish, and ward against any Ephemeral Being. By default, this is a thing that pretty much anyone can do (see So You Want To Be An Exorcist by amechra for a really good in depth look about how to do it well) but for some people it comes more easily than others. The Dark Eras book (both of them) offer great perspectives on people who truly believe in the kinds of creatures that live in the dark, especially in specific cultural contexts.
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  • ‚ÄčArchonAres Haberdasher Caladriu Wormwood Dusksage well, that took way longer than I wanted it to, but the update is finally up. On the plus side, I've been learning a lot of very, very fun stuff recently that I can tie in to PlotTM and hopefully a little authenticity will make the game a bit more fun.

    So, a bit of a personal moment between Earth and Satin, Scout is being called upon to Ramble properly, and Mark 5 gets to hear a story from an intriguing Named.
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  • The Forks

    When Scout makes his announcement, the local Nepri get very, very still. Solomon takes a half step forwards, crossing his arms across his chest, his head at a quizzical tilt, eyes narrowed. "That so, Eagle Scout? Big claim, that. How did you do it? What alchemy did you draw on?" Some of the others are muttering to one another. At least one or two seem to have heard of a rebis before. One Nepri without a tongue is texting with elegantly swift fingers to a companion, who is staring intently at the screen of their own phone, nodding, and typing back, far more slowly,...
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  • Arcanist
    replied to Spirit Life-Cycle, Explained
    EDIT: Ninja'd by nofather

    That's almost correct. (Minus how spirits increase in Rank, we don't actually know how they do it, but your suggestion is as good as any.) Spirits spend a point of Essence per day to remain active, meaning that if they hibernate they just passively regain Essence from a source of Resonance. However, being depleted of Essence (and hibernating) is dangerous because other spirits might come along and just kill their rival or nibble on their slowly regenerating Essence stores as a means to feed themselves. Werewolves, however, inflict Lethal damage to everything...
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  • In this case, would the Principality merge with the nascent Dark Lord's Oneiros, or would it simply take up space in it? Could a Dark Lord conceivably physically enter their Principality? Would their Daimon take the place of a Horror?

    Crap, now you've gotten me thinking. I've got a Mage Legacy and a Changeling Entitlement focused around becoming a Dark Lord rattling about in my head now. On the other hand, perhaps such a Dark Lord would be more suitable as a Mage/Beast crossover splat, similar to the Admonitoria for Changeling/Vampire? Or maybe Heroes can become Dark Lords? Heroes...
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  • You know, I'm actually from Winnipeg. I live there, and I love it. I'm running a Promethean game on the forums set in the city and Louis Riel has some ties to stuff in the past of my version of the CofD. A professor of mine wrote an article about why Winnipeg is so strangely Gothic, and why authors seem to congregate in the city. We have a bigger neopagan/occult scene than cities double or triple our size, I was taught the anthropology of witchcraft by a practicing witch. This place is freaking weird.

    I have such a hankering to see an official take on a place I know and love. Hell,...
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