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  • In the 1e supplement Magnum Opus, there was a section on what were called Scions: progeny of human/Promethean matings. It's been a while since I've read the section; but from what I recall, the answer given was “no, Prometheans can't bear or sire children — unless they can.” No special Alchemical procedure was needed; just a fervent desire to have kids, not unlike Saturnine Night would subsequently reveal that the let interesting in a mortal creating a Promethean was a desperation to create life. If conception is successful, the resulting child is born immune to the effects of Disquiet.
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  • Dataweaver
    replied to Sleepers Using Charms
    Except that the whole point of the Imbued was “but we're not Soopernatural! Honest!”
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  • I recall in Asia Ascendant, Donighal's involvement in the Galatea explosion was made explicit.

    But then, Asia Ascendant never formally saw print.
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  • To clarify: the Pallottino, Akashic martial arts clans, Verbena Wyck bloodlines, Hermetic acolytes, etc. are all primarily custos: they have access to supernatural powers but not to Sphere Magick, for the most part. A handful in each of these groups Awaken, and some claim that the percentages of Awakenings are higher than in the general population; but if so, that increase in frequency isn't enough; even with these things, the overwhelming majority of these custos families never Awaken. For the sake of argument, let's say that the odds of Awakening in the general populace is one in a million:...
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  • Dataweaver
    replied to Sleepers Using Charms
    Ooh; an Imbued, huh? How strict are the Messengers? I ask because some of the early material for HtR made a point that supernatural powers other than the Edges that the Imbued receive through their Virtues are completely verboten to the Imbued. If that's the case, then your Hunter character will count as a Sleeper who doesn't have the right mindset to qualify to activate the bullet Charms. If he can't trigger the magic in the bullets, the issue of what happens when the bullets are activated becomes moot.
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  • Dataweaver
    replied to Sleepers Using Charms
    The official rule on it is:
    Mystic allies, meanwhile, can employ Charms… and a suitable impressionable Sleeper can use them too if she spends a point of Willpower, although a Sleeper whose disbelief would trigger Paradox cannot.

    Book of Secrets p.140
    So honest-to-goodness, dyed-in-the-wool Sleepers never have to worry about what happens with Paradox accumulation, because if there would be any Paradox generated at all, the Charm simply fails.

    Things get slightly messier when you consider Extraordinary Citizens and their mystical counterparts: these are people who would...
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  • Dataweaver
    replied to A lost pantheon?
    Also, I took the original intent not as “let's make up a new Pantheon and attach it to these lost people just because”, but rather “let's have a Pantheon that was worshipped by a loving culture until very recently — a Pantheon that had active supporters in the World that were contemporaries of the likes of the Aesir and the Kami until they got wiped out. Let's explore how this Pantheon reacts to the total loss of its mortal worshippers.”

    That's the part of this idea that I like: it's kind of a flip side of the Nemontedavos, where the people survived (somewhat) but their...
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  • Dataweaver
    replied to A lost pantheon?
    How do we know that Atlantis wasn't a real people that similarly got lost? For all we know, making stuff up about them is just as disrespectful as making stuff up about the culture that the original poster was referring to.

    No, I don't actually believe that Atlantis was real. I'm just making a point. just as it is possible to be insufficiently concerned about being disrespectful, it is also possible to be overly concerned about it....
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  • Not as whole families of Awakened, no. But I strongly support No One of Consequence's suggestion of whole families of Sorcerers, Psychics, and other supernaturally empowered mortals.
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  • Dataweaver
    replied to A lost pantheon?
    Okay; I stand corrected.
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  • Dataweaver
    replied to A lost pantheon?
    And to clarify, that would fit under the “don't be disrespectful” bit that I think we all agree on. I am not saying that the fact that it's possible to go too far means that you shouldn't try at all; I'm just saying that there's a difference between “don't be disrespectful” and “go for maximum respectfulness”.

    By that standard, we don't get the Gaulish Pantheon, as my understanding is that the vast majority of it is made up due to a near-complete lack of source material — and what we do have is filtered through the Romans' interpretation of the Gaulish Pantheon.
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  • I sympathize; I've got a list of four projects I'd like to get published on STV, if I can just get the time to get them put together.
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  • Dataweaver
    replied to A lost pantheon?
    Given that this is a game, I think avoiding disrespect is good enough. You can go overboard on being respectful, to the point that it starts interfering with the game.
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  • Dataweaver
    replied to Book of Oblivion
    I am. I grew up in the 80s, long before the invention of the cell phone; I remember the Yellow Pages.
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  • I do think there's something there, though: as I said, I could see expanding the Rite of Parted Mists (CtD pp.461–462) to apply to a location rather than a person, causing everything in that location to be “enchanted” in the sense that the difference between physical and chimerical doesn't exist within its borders. You might even include the location gaining a Glamour rating, but only using it as a way to protect itself from Banal interlopers.

    (Conversely, you might also introduce Banal locations that chimerae can't ever safely, if at all.)
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  • Have you considered attempting to write it up for Storyteller's Vault? Like Eldagusto, I'd buy it in a minute. (Mind you, you'd probably want to write it up as a companion for Sorcerer Revised or Hunters Hunted 2, in the sense of referring the reader there for the mechanics of Path Magic and Psychic Phenomena.)

    For the record, I have no problem with magically empowered bloodlines in Mage; but I'd keep them strictly separate from the Awakened themselves: there might be rumors of members of these magical families being more likely to Awaken; but they'd strictly be rumors....
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  • Dark Ages: Mage never addressed sorcery; that was left to Dark Ages: Vampire. But remember that DAM was originally published as a supplement for DAV; so if DAV addressed it, it was available for DAM too....
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  • I'm not against new Pillars; but to my mind, they're not something that individuals create: it takes a Fellowship to create them, or at least a significant portion of a Fellowship's Masters. It may even be part and parcel of the founding of a new Fellowship, the way the Craftmasons traded out Primus for Materia when they formed. Limiting it to four Pillars per Fellowship also means that a mage who raised his Foundation to 5 gets to work without tools for all of them; adding a fifth means that even a Master can't *ahem* master them all.

    But if anyone could create new Pillars on their...
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  • I'm very leery of allowing purely Chimerical beings to interact with purely physical things without some kind of aid (like Redes). It's too much like letting ghosts or spirits interact more or less freely with the physical world. Now, they should be reasonably free to interact with things that have both a physical and a chimerical existence like changelings and lycians and even the Enchanted. Now, I could see the notion of Enchantment being extendable to a place, allowing chimera to interact with anything in that place as normal; though I'd definitely include the caveat that the Mists wreak havoc...
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  • Dataweaver
    replied to A Unified Theory of Ether
    My thoughts on the Society of Ether.

    And No One of Consequence's thoughts on Etherite style.
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    Last edited by Dataweaver; 03-28-2020, 10:58 PM.

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